How to Keep Making Progress After Coaching (with Coach Grant & Stephanie) | DFIO Ep.252
About Today’s Episode:
In today’s episode, we interview an amazing lady named Stephanie. Stephanie had, what I call, the “struggle story”—the yo-yo diets, issues with the scale, food relationship issues—and she’d been struggling for years.
Stephanie signed up for coaching with us and she absolutely crushed it. Now, it's been two years since she graduated from the 180 Impact coaching program and she’s STILL crushing it.
Today you’re going to hear from myself, Stephanie, and Coach Grant to learn what you can do right now to finally put an end to your struggles and completely 180 your life.
I know you’re going to get a ton out of this episode, so let’s get into it!
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro
00:25 About Today’s Episode
02:55 Sponsors
05:43 Stephanie’s Story
17:54 Where the Shift Started
25:15 Letting Go of Timelines
32:40 Getting Through the Rocky Times
36:42 Getting Over the Hesitation to Hire a Coach
45:45 What Made Stephanie so Successful
52:02 Final Thoughts From Stephanie
55:00 Coaching Offer
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How to Keep Making Progress After Coaching (with Coach Grant & Stephanie) | DFIO Ep.252
0:00:00.0 Stephanie: At one point I gave up. I just thought, "This is just gonna be me. I'm just gonna be this overweight person. I'm not gonna live to see my grandbabies or my kids grow up, for that matter." My rock bottom was one day my kid was playing with her friends and she was like, "Mom, come chase me." And I couldn't. And I couldn't and I hated myself for it. And I was like, "Why am I so weak?" I was like, "I gotta do something. Something has to change."
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0:00:27.1 Jared: What's going on everybody? Welcome back to a brand new episode of Dieting from the Inside Out. If you are new here, welcome to the show, my name is Jared Hamilton. It's gonna be a really cool episode today because I want to show you how to get results so good that after you finish your goals years later, you're still good. Here's what I mean by that. In today's episode, we interviewed an amazing lady named Stephanie. And this is a three-way podcast, you have myself, Stephanie and Coach Grant. Because what happens is, I wanted to really show you what can happen post-coaching when you do everything the right way and implement all the things that I teach you. Because here's what we did, so we got Stephanie, her name is Stephanie Armstrong, she's an amazing human. And what we did was I wanted to get her on here and interview her and give you some specific takeaways that you can apply to your situation so you will never struggle losing weight ever again. Because here's what happened with Stephanie, here's the consolidated version then I'll let her take over from here. So with Stephanie, Stephanie had the normal struggle... What I call the struggle story, like the yoyoing, the old mentalities, the food relationship issues, the hauntingness around the scale, the whole nine yards of struggle and had been struggling for years.
0:01:42.3 Jared: Alright. Well, Stephanie, decided to invest in herself and join our coaching program and things went great. She crushed it. She graduated. She did super well. Well, it's been about three... It's been 2 or 3 years since Stephanie ended her coaching with us, since she graduated. And I wanted to get her on here and show you what life after coaching looks like, to show you how much she's still crushing and still applying the things that she learned inside coaching that has opened up the levels of freedom and happiness in her life and so she never turned around. This is why the program is called 180 Impact, because we will 180 every single one of these struggles and you will never struggle ever again. That's what this is about. So that's why I wanted to get Stephanie on here so you can see a real-life case study of number one, just to be honest with you, how great our program is at helping people just like you but then also I want you to... 'Cause I know you'll resonate with her story, I know that you'll go, "Oh shit. That sounds like me."
0:02:35.3 Jared: "Okay, that's sounds like me. Oh wow, I didn't know. I thought I was the only one that felt like that." You're gonna have that happen 'cause Stephanie has such a powerful story but then there's gonna be so many takeaways from her, Coach Grant and myself on what you can do right now and to apply into your situation, so you can have a story just like Stephanie's. I know you're gonna get a lot of value out of this. Be sure to stick around for the whole thing. Now, before we get into that though, big thank you from the sponsors of the show. Sponsor number one is FlexPro Meals. I always have to give a huge thank you to FlexPro, if I could talk, for supporting myself and the show. Guys, I've been using their stuff for so long now and it's been so helpful and if you have a situation like mine where your schedule's all over the place, you don't always have time or make time to cook but you really like good-tasting food that meets you and your numbers where you need to be at for your goals, FlexPro is where it's at. Because it works so well just having these meals that are made by a chef that taste amazing, that are high-protein, that are dialed into your calories in your fridge, on deck, ready to go whenever you need them. And you don't have to eat only FlexPros.
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0:05:43.5 Jared: Yeah, so Bataan Death March everybody. Bataan Death March is what we're training for, apparently. What is that? What is a Bataan Death March?
0:05:50.9 Stephanie: So it's a memorial march that military veterans, people who support veterans all go to. And it's in Las Cruces, is that right? I can't remember, I think it's Las Cruces and it's at the military installation and it's 26.2 miles.
0:06:11.5 Jared: Dear God.
0:06:13.4 Stephanie: You could run it, you can walk it with weight, you could do no weight as a civilian, or you could do the half, which is 14.2 and it's like this, sand...
0:06:25.8 Jared: Goodnight. That is crazy.
0:06:29.1 Grant: And is that what you're gonna be doing with that as well? The 30 pounds while you're...
0:06:33.9 Stephanie: No. No, I'm only gonna be doing 20 pounds.
0:06:38.0 Jared: Only 20. Only 20.
0:06:38.5 Grant: Only 20 pounds.
0:06:41.3 Jared: Only 20.
0:06:41.5 Stephanie: It's probably gonna equate to 30 pounds 'cause I'm gonna be carrying my snacks, my water. Yeah.
0:06:47.8 Jared: Well, that'll be fun. So it's basically a marathon on steroids with more toys, it sounds like then.
0:06:53.8 Stephanie: But it's with a bunch of my military buddies, so.
0:06:56.6 Jared: I love that. That's awesome.
0:06:58.2 Grant: Yeah. No, that'll be a good time.
0:07:00.0 Jared: That'll be super cool. When is that?
0:07:01.2 Stephanie: It's in March.
0:07:02.7 Jared: March. Got it. Cool, awesome. Well, hell yeah. Well, Stephanie, thank you so much for doing this. I apologize, the back and forth with getting the schedule. My schedule's been bonkers lately and then I know last week I texted Grant, 'cause I said, "Hey, reschedule the podcast with Stephanie because I'm either gonna be on a plane or putting my dog down, either way I will not be good to do the show."
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0:07:22.5 Stephanie: Oh, my goodness.
0:07:24.3 Jared: So thankfully, it was the first. It was on a plane. My white Pit Bull, she pulled through. Apparently, her liver decided to clock out and quit working. I've never seen a white dog go jaundice before but there's a first time for everything. So she's good now, she's all spunky and chunky and all the goods, so I appreciate your patience with me trying to get my side of the world in check.
0:07:49.2 Stephanie: No worries, no worries. Your dogs are your babies, so I totally get that.
0:07:53.4 Jared: That's right, that's right. Yeah, I saw some friends who aren't dog people and they're like, "Bro, just end it." And I'm like, "You don't understand."
0:08:01.5 Stephanie: That's crazy. That's crazy.
0:08:04.6 Jared: Yeah. I don't hang out with too many people like that anymore. If they think I'm crazy for having dogs and I think they're crazy for having children. It's fine, it's mutual, so.
0:08:12.4 Stephanie: I have both, so I think they're both crazy.
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0:08:16.3 Jared: There you go. I love it, I love it. Well, Stephanie, the reason I wanted to get you on and just talk in general on this stuff is because you have been the picture-perfect case of what I would call life after coaching. Because what happens is a lot of people don't realize the whole point of coaching is truly to graduate, is to truly not need a coach forever. And it's one of my biggest pet peeves in the world is I'll see other coaches and they'll have their clients for five or six years and which again, if goals are changing or if someone just wants the extra accountability, that's one thing but for clients to still be lost in the dark and still struggling not knowing what's going on and still overwhelmed after years and years and years of this thing, it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. But you've been a picture-perfect analogy with this of how this is supposed to go, came in, did the thing and then been crushing from then on out. And it's been a while. I can't remember, how long has it been since you guys have worked together?
0:09:16.4 Stephanie: I think it's almost two years, I think.
0:09:18.6 Grant: Oh wow, that seems like that's just been like a minute ago. That's crazy.
0:09:21.9 Jared: Yeah, it's absurd. I have no sense of time in general but then when someone's like, "Yeah, three years ago, COVID started," or four years ago and I'm like, "That's absurd." So that's why I wanted you to come on. I think it would be a really good lesson for everyone that's listening to understand the value of going about this the right way. Whether coaching or not but the value of how the goal is not to be always losing fat 100% of the time and to go about doing this the right way, the sustainable way, because then your life opens up on the other side. So that's why I really wanted you to come on. So give a little bit of an idea. Talk a little bit about the you before coaching back in the struggle, back in the trenches. Remind everyone what that looked like.
0:10:03.8 Stephanie: Oh, my goodness. I was just trying to figure out how to lose weight the quickest and I was doing all...
0:10:13.6 Jared: I remember our call.
0:10:15.6 Stephanie: I was doing all these fad diets, I was starving myself and then I would totally blow it and then gain a bunch of weight extra, even more. I never had a problem working out, I think that's because of... That stems back from my military background. But it physically hurt to do those things, so I just... I was on Phentermine, I was on shots, I was on keto, I was on Weight Watchers, all these crazy things. And Weight Watchers is not bad. I wouldn't totally completely diss it... 'Cause I think there's some people that are successful on it but it wasn't successful for me. 'Cause I can't maintain if I can't eat what I like, right? And then... What was the other question? Sorry.
0:11:13.5 Jared: No, no. You're good. Just how bad things were 'cause I think a lot of people have a tendency to look at people who are really successful with their journeys and they just go, "But I can never be like that," when in reality, most people are all in the same boat with how bad your situation was and what your stuff was looking like prior to all of this.
0:11:31.2 Stephanie: Yeah, absolutely, I hated myself. At one point I gave up. I just thought, "This is just gonna be me, I'm just gonna be this overweight person, I'm not gonna live to see my grandbabies or my kids grow up," for that matter. I couldn't even go on simple play at the park with my kid without getting winded. Her school, her elementary school, is literally like maybe a block away and it's a little uphill and I couldn't even walk her to school without getting winded. That to me was like, something has to change. And so that's when I started... I was on TikTok and I saw your stuff and the stuff you were saying, I'm like, "Yeah, why can't I do that? Why does it seem so impossible? And just before I saw your TikToks, my doctor was talking to me about maybe getting gastric bypass and I was really scared about that 'cause I have a family member who did that and now she has all these health issues after the fact. She's got a vitamin deficiency, she's got glucose issues. And she has no... She's completely weak, physically, pretty frail. And so I was kind of scared about that and I was like, "There's gotta be a better way, there's gotta be a better way," not easier but better way.
0:12:55.2 Jared: Sure. No, absolutely, I love that. I think a lot of people, this is a commonality that I'm seeing, 'cause we like to... 'Cause in general between conversations with clients and really like to interview really successful clients like this on the show but the biggest commonality that I like to ask... Or a question I like to ask that brings about this really big commonality is what was the catalyst that made all this change? And everyone brings up that exact same thing, either not living to see my grandbabies, taking my struggles to the grave and all of these really, really dark... The dark side of like, "Oh shit, this is what's going to happen if I don't get my shit together." For you, is that what really caused you to quite literally get your shit together? Was it just your rock bottom or what was it?
0:13:38.8 Stephanie: My rock bottom was one day my kid was playing with her friends and she was like, "Mom, come chase me," and I couldn't. And I couldn't and I hated myself for it. And I was like, "Why am I so weak? I know I can do this. I did it in military." And then so much had changed after I had her. So I was like, "I gotta do something, I gotta do something." And so that was just the breaking point for me 'cause I was literally devastated I couldn't even play with my kid without feeling like I was pathetic.
0:14:10.3 Jared: Yeah, no, I get that. Yeah, absolutely. And I think a lot of people, to be honest, ignore that. I think a lot of people have the sign in front of them that's like, "Yo, you have to change this" but ignorance is bliss so we're like, "No, it's not that bad," or "Oh no, it's fine. I'm gonna try this one more time." So to come full circle, where are things at now that it's been not only through coaching and then that ended and then now you've been on the other side for quite a bit now, so where are things at now?
0:14:38.9 Stephanie: So now...
0:14:40.4 Jared: Other than this crazy ass fucking rack march you're about to do in March.
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0:14:46.3 Stephanie: When I was talking to Grant and even when I was talking to you, I was doing some of those challenges, they were just in smaller increments so I've been working upto this point. But after coaching, learning so much about not just what the sweet number was, where I was supposed to be on a deficit. It wasn't just about that, it was digging deeper, I knew... I figured out I had these triggers and unfortunately, it was with my mom. She was a really big part of why I hated myself and why I struggled and why I self-sabotaged 'cause I'd feel good about myself and then she'd have a conversation with me and say something along the lines...
0:15:23.1 Jared: I remember.
0:15:24.3 Stephanie: Something stupid along the lines of, "your husband's gonna leave you 'cause you don't look like these Barbie doll people" and it really fucked with me... Oh, I mean, messed with me.
0:15:35.2 Jared: You can absolutely curse. You know me better than that. You can say all the curse words, I encourage it.
0:15:41.0 Stephanie: As long as my church friends don't watch this.
0:15:43.2 Jared: It's fine.
0:15:44.4 Stephanie: No, they don't care.
0:15:45.3 Jared: I'm fully convinced Jesus cursed. Fully convinced. Anyway.
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0:15:49.1 Stephanie: But it really messed with me and then I would end up self-sabotaging and then I hated myself and my husband was constantly trying to pick me up and be my cheerleader and I just didn't wanna hear it. And so I started to figure out all these things, I started to sit with it, journal it, put up boundaries, which was really, really hard but I set those hard boundaries, I was like, "You cannot talk to me about this stuff. It is not your right, it messes with me and if you wanna have a relationship with me, we just can't talk about these things." And she's mad for a minute but yeah. So I had those boundaries and I suddenly started to figure out... It started to get easier because eventually the tracking the food, it became automatic, like I know what the portions look like now. I know that I have to have a heavier... 'Cause I lift a lot, I have a heavier protein than I normally do than my carbs and then my veggies. I gotta make sure I get my veggies in otherwise there's gonna be other issues along the way. But yeah, just a healthy balance is what this program really taught me and I think I kinda sort of knew some of that but it didn't really connect. If that makes sense.
0:17:06.7 Jared: No, absolutely.
0:17:08.2 Stephanie: And so, yeah. And then the workout part, like I said, that's always been my passion. I just wanna be strong and nothing gets me going when my husband comes with me to the gym and I'm like, "Is that all you can do? Is that all?"
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0:17:22.5 Jared: "Come on, bitch boy!" Oh, I love it. I love it. Actually, it's a whole another side tangent, I think it is so underrated women in general getting strong and we get all excited from the coaching standpoint when we see someone that just wants to get stronger than piss and it's the coolest thing ever and then ironically, we see it in so many cases when we let go of weight loss and we're just like, "I just wanna feel good, I wanna get really, really strong." Weight loss just has a tendency just to happen when you just wanna get strong as fuck, you know what I mean?
0:17:53.1 Stephanie: Yeah.
0:17:55.1 Jared: So for you, I'm curious and I always like to ask this because everyone's answer is different. When it came to this... Because I kind of view it like this, so when you met your husband, you didn't love him. Now, present day, you love your husband but it's hard to say at that moment in time I fell in love with my husband, that's where it shifted. Usually when it comes to... It's the same thing here with mastery over weight loss results, emotions, triggers, boundaries, the whole nine yards. So for you, was there a defining moment where you're like, that's where it started to shift, or was it like, no, all I know is I started struggling and then one day I just... I hadn't struggled in a really long time. Where did that shift for you? I'm just curious.
0:18:34.0 Stephanie: I think the shift started when I... 'Cause I told Grant, I was like, "I just wanna be strong," right? And I remember there was this phone conversation I had with him and he was like, "What would it look like if the scale never moved but you were really strong? What would that look like? Would you be happy with that?" 'Cause I know people that are strong but not small. And I think that was the turning point for me because I was like, "Wait a minute, I am strong. Why does a scale number matter to me?" Well, my bloodwork says I'm healthy, healthy as hell, right? So why does it matter? And I remember just driving home that day and I was thinking like, "Yeah, I think I got this," right?
0:19:25.8 Jared: Yeah, yeah, a little bit.
0:19:27.9 Stephanie: And then, I think a month later, then I had to graduate 'cause things were different. [chuckle]
0:19:34.1 Jared: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
0:19:36.3 Stephanie: You know, COVID, money and stuff.
0:19:38.2 Jared: Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
0:19:39.2 Stephanie: But I left feeling that conversation when I was like, "Alright, I think I got this." I left that conversation going, "Okay, I think I can do this." And then from that moment on, I just continued with what I had learned and what you had taught. And it is true, all the things that you say. I know people don't think it's not... [laughter] People are like, "Oh, he's just blowing smoke," right? No, it's like facts. It's facts. [chuckle] It does work. You just have to just be patient. I think that was the strongest word that just resonated with me all the time. Be patient. Be patient. Be patient. You didn't gain it overnight, right? And you're not gonna lose it overnight. And I think that's a common misconception because of what society tells us, right? You see the celebrities like, "Oh my God, they're so skinny." They didn't see the struggle that they went through because they didn't post that, right? 'Cause that's ugly.
0:20:31.1 Jared: Yeah.
0:20:31.2 Grant: Right.
0:20:31.9 Stephanie: Right? So yeah.
0:20:34.2 Jared: Totally.
0:20:34.9 Grant: Well and the thing that I love about all this too is because it's hard for a lot of people to understand. Most people think that they've gotta make all of their... Or, I'm sorry, meet all of their accomplishments during the time where you coach. But that's really not what it is, right? It's ultimately like coaching in a nutshell is setting you up for the long run so that, again, three years, two years, however long it's been afterwards, you're still on the right trajectory. So I love all that. That makes me happy.
0:20:57.2 Stephanie: Dude, I still do your workouts like the last...
0:21:00.8 Grant: I know!
0:21:00.9 Jared: Let's go!
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0:21:01.0 Stephanie: Because I still am not able to do one pull-up without assist, so that's still the goal.
0:21:05.8 Jared: You'll get there.
0:21:06.9 Stephanie: And I think I got set back 'cause I had gotten injured. I had to get adjusted by the chiropractor and I had to rest for a little while but I'm almost there. I'm almost there. [chuckle]
0:21:17.8 Jared: I love that. I love that.
0:21:19.2 Grant: That's honestly one of my favorite things, is seeing you post your workout videos. I love those.
0:21:23.8 Stephanie: It's so much fun. I love posting them too, because especially when my husband's there because I'm just so much more stronger than him.
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0:21:32.0 Jared: It's like, "Come on, bitch boy, whatcha doin'?" [laughter]
0:21:34.9 Stephanie: When he has a stanky leg for the next two days, I'm like, "I'm not even sore."
0:21:36.3 Grant: Yeah.
0:21:36.4 Jared: Let's go.
0:21:37.8 Stephanie: Like, "What are you talking about?" [chuckle]
0:21:39.2 Grant: There was one video in particular where you are... And I think I reached out to you to comment on that, where it's like you're in the front smiling and your husband's in the back. Yeah, you remember that?
0:21:47.5 Stephanie: Yeah it's the lateral raises. Yeah, it's like that. Yeah.
0:21:49.8 Grant: That's great, I love that.
0:21:53.4 Jared: Grant, I'm curious, so from your perspective, from the coaching perspective, I'd wanna ask the same thing. From your perspective, where did you see it start to shift for her going from hardcore struggle bus then to thriving but there's a lot of levels in between that but I think a lot of us coaches will see like, "Okay, it's happening, they're starting to realize the scale does not define them, they are starting to realize that they don't have to be scared of food or they're starting to hold boundaries with themselves and with others." Whatever. Was there any specific defining moments that you remembered where that transition started to happen for her?
0:22:25.7 Grant: Yeah, I think a couple of things. I think the first one is, once we let go of the idea that this doesn't have to be like a set-in-stone amount of time like for example, you don't have to be to your end goal in 21 days, you don't have to be to your end goal in 60 days. I think that that was a very pivotal point where again, we tell ourselves, "Yeah, sure, it might take a year." But once we actually understand that and we start to live that, where it's not like we're overly scrutinizing every single thing but we're really keeping the big picture in mind.
0:22:56.9 Grant: I think that that was a very pivotal moment. And then I think another thing too is, at least from my perspective and maybe you can talk on that a little bit more too, is whenever... And this is a very common thing that I say with people where oftentimes... And you already have the workout side down where most people view working out as a means to lose weight but as you know, it's much more than that. It's so that you're strong, it's so that your back doesn't hurt, it's all of these beautiful, beautiful things. And I think for a lot of people, it's being able to make that mental switch where it's not that we're working out to lose weight but we're working out to accomplish all these beautiful things and I think another big moment for you was whenever you kind of had that same flip in terms of how you perceived food.
0:23:38.3 Grant: It's allowing yourself to have the things. It's mending food relationships but it's also that understanding that food is there to fuel the body and not there to lose weight. And I think that that was at least another big kind of perspective shift that I saw in you and I think that those two things combined, the time frame doesn't really matter and then those, yeah.
0:23:56.5 Stephanie: Yeah, I would agree with the shift with the food. Yeah, definitely. It was a pretty pivotal moment where I was like, "Wait, I could eat?" And then I have all this energy? Like so food was fuel and that was like the light bulb.
0:24:14.8 Jared: So where did that happen? Going from being scared of food to, "Oh shit." What made that switch to get flipped?
0:24:21.5 Stephanie: I don't know, I think it just happened. It just happened. One day I was just not worried about like, "I gotta make sure that I count this, I gotta make sure that I track this, I gotta make sure... " It just automatically just started happening. And then one day I was like, "Oh, I forgot to track last week." And then I was like, "Oh but I'm still doing good." So it was just a natural thing. 'Cause I had just... I always said in the beginning, I'm a creature of habit. So I still have the same kind of breakfast. If it's not broke... I get fancy with lunches and I still meal-prep now.
0:24:55.0 Jared: Let's go.
0:24:55.5 Stephanie: I still meal-prep. But that's because I'm a hairstylist. If I don't make food, I'm going to eat all day, every chance I get in between clients and it's not the healthiest choice. And then I end up eating even more after I'm done at the end of the day because I'm starving if I don't do that, so I just meal-prep my lunches every day.
0:25:15.5 Jared: That's huge. I'm curious with the timeline side of things, did you struggle with that a lot? I personally don't remember this as much. Did you struggle with the timeline side of the journey?
0:25:25.9 Stephanie: What do you mean by that?
0:25:28.4 Jared: Where you're like, "I feel like I have to get to this date, by this time and oh my gosh."
0:25:31.6 Stephanie: Yes.
0:25:32.0 Jared: What broke that? What made you go, "Oh, I guess I don't have to be a psychopath anymore?" [laughter] Where did that shift happen?
0:25:44.0 Stephanie: Well, I think one, I was gonna hurt myself if I continued to try to think that way because, like, "I gotta work out, I gotta work out, I've gotta get it done." And the other part was, there was a thing that you did, a training that you did about how... You explained how you don't gain it overnight, you're not gonna lose it overnight and it's a process and I just saw the scale moving but then it wasn't moving fast enough for me and I was stressing out about it. But then I started noticing that my clothes are fitting different and I was like, "Wait, one's not the same." You could be this weight and your clothes will fit smaller. And then my husband was like, You're looking really nice. Someone at the gym stopped me, "You're looking really nice as of weight." Okay. Maybe this is working. Right, so then I just wasn't... I just didn't look at that anymore, I still weigh myself occasionally but that's so that I can see like my scale has a bone density, water, muscle mass, the whole little smart scale and so I like to see that number on the muscle part look cooler.
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0:26:53.6 Jared: That's dope.
0:26:55.8 Stephanie: So yeah, that's... And also just to kinda just have a gauge. Especially after the holiday I was like, "Okay, I know I went crazy but let's get back to it." Right? I didn't beat myself up about it, I had a really good time, I ate a crap ton of food but it was worth it. I didn't eat so much that I was sick but it was like, "Oh, prime rib." Right. [laughter]
0:27:20.8 Jared: Oh, shit I wanna go to your holidays.
0:27:23.1 Stephanie: I didn't even cook it. A friend of mine invited us so I was like, even better, this should be our new tradition. [chuckle]
0:27:29.5 Jared: Fuck turkey, give me the prime rib. Dear God. No, that's amazing. And I think that's a piece that a lot of people miss when they feel like they're trapped by the scale, they're not looking at everything in context. For you, it sounds very logical and it sounds like it was almost forced upon you where it's like, "Oh my gosh, the scale is not moving but the husband won't leave me alone, so and so at the gym won't quit talking about how good I look and these clothes are fitting, maybe there's more to this than the fucking scale." You know what I mean?
0:27:56.6 Stephanie: Yeah, yeah.
0:27:58.2 Jared: That's huge.
0:28:00.3 Stephanie: It's like light bulb.
0:28:00.8 Grant: And do you remember too the... I'm trying to think, it's been so long, I don't remember exactly but do you remember kind of the first time that I pointed out some of the changes in your progress photos, I think that you weren't very like... You were kind of like, "I mean, I kind of get it but it's not really there." And then we went from progress photo one to progress photo five. And you're like, "Oh, get it."
0:28:21.1 Stephanie: Yes, yes. I remember that, you were like, "I'm seeing changes." And I was like, "Where?"
0:28:25.4 Grant: And you were like, "Fuck you. No, there is no change."
0:28:27.3 Stephanie: "Where?" I'm looking with a magnifying glass, "Where?"
0:28:29.6 Jared: That's huge.
0:28:35.9 Stephanie: When you showed me the fifth picture I was like, "That's me?"
0:28:37.9 Grant: That's awesome.
0:28:38.4 Jared: Well and I think it goes back to really show, as corny as it sounds, we get what we look for. When you were in the mindset of, "No, there's no progress. No, this is hard. No, this sucks. No, I'm not gonna make it work." Your brain just goes, "Bet, I'll show you only the negative shit, I'm gonna hide everything." And then as soon as you opened your mind up, when it's like, "No, fucking look at this." It's like forcing you to look at it. And then your brain goes, "Oh shit." It's like this whole world opens up, it's like we always talk about your RAS in fat loss. The reticular activating system in your brain, because it's our filter on life, it's why we get what we look for, like on every level, whatever it may be, 'cause our brain is just such a supercomputer that only shows us what we are actively trying to find, like we could have the exact same, like equal parts, good and bad in front of us. And depending on what your focus is at, that's all you're gonna see. It's crazy.
0:29:34.8 Stephanie: Absolutely, absolutely. I even did something like, I think... I'm not sure if it was Grant or you but someone said to call out the progress. And it was like every little thing, even if it was like a journaled today, I meditated, every little thing, so I actually have it on my fucking mirror in the gym.
0:29:57.6 Jared: Let's go.
0:29:57.7 Stephanie: But it's like with big letters, "CALL OUT THE PROGRESS." 'Cause I was so bad about that in the beginning, it just... Yeah.
0:30:03.7 Jared: I think this takes it really deep too, I think the reason why... Grant and I talk about this sometimes, why people are so reluctant to do that and I think it's two-sided, I think it's because there's such a track record of failure, most people are just conditioned that they're gonna keep failing but then I think there's this deep sense of, "I'm not worthy and good enough to make the progress 'cause that's gonna make me happy and feel better." And I think a lot of people struggle with that, where there's this sense of unworthiness deep inside somewhere, so it's like we see the progress but we don't want to see it because that would prove the worthiness thing wrong.
0:30:41.2 Stephanie: Yeah, I would agree with that 100%. Whenever I was struggling to see the progress, I would definitely beat myself up a lot and even though Grant would tell me that there was progress and I wasn't believing him... That was when I was still in the beginning of this whole program. I would sabotage myself, the sale was down and I would eat extra and I was like, "What am I doing? What am I doing?" 'Cause I think you're right, I think internally, I really thought I didn't deserve it. I'm not worthy of being successful or being healthy. Because that's what I was told for so long, all the doctors even saying before they figured out that I had a thyroid issue, they were like, "I don't know, you're just a really healthy fat person." Right? And I'm like, "Wait a second. Wait a second." I had a doctor tell me... I was working out six days a week before I even did anything with you guys and I was doing the thing where I was starving myself and working out and the lady, the nurse technician or whatever lady that checked me in, that weighed me and she goes, "You know you're really obese."
0:31:57.2 Stephanie: And I was like, "I guess." And she was like, "You really should do something about it." And I'm like, "I'm working out, I'm doing everything I need to do." And then eventually, they figured out it was a thyroid thing too on top of it, so once they got the medication right then that kind of helped everything else and that's been a struggle ongoing, even through my coaching with Grant where it's just... Sometimes it's like I don't have control over it and I did have a really scary hiccup recently because of the weight loss, I was taking too much and my body freaked out and so I called the doctor and I was like, "Something has to change, I'm not feeling right." And so we found out that I was having too much of the thyroid hormone in my body because I lost weight.
0:32:39.7 Jared: Wow.
0:32:39.7 Grant: And something else to kinda go off that, because I remember a lot of our conversations back and forth then where, for example, you would get an adjustment on your medication and that would always inevitably lead to the scale doing some really crazy shit for a while and I know that one of the things that you eventually got to a really good place with is understanding like, this is going to happen but you'll come out on the other side, what was it that kind of got you? Because I feel like that's where a lot of people also struggle is understanding that they can get a little bit of a rocky bit in the road but eventually, it's gonna smooth out. What was that kind of mindset shift and how did you go from where you were at the start of that to eventually it was just like, "Hey, yeah, we're adjusting my medicine." And I mean, literally, I think you would send that to me where it's like, "Hey, we're adjusting my medicine, so yeah, scale is probably gonna go a little bit crazy for a little bit but it's all good."
0:33:31.0 Stephanie: Yeah. I think the shift was the fact that it kept happening. Every time they'd change it and then I would get back on course, it would take a minute and I would get back on course and so it was just consistency that it just kept happening and I was like, "Okay, I've done it before. I know what the results are gonna be and I just need to just keep trucking on." And so that was just... It was just seeing what happened before and so just remembering that just because it changed because of the medication doesn't mean that I can't get back on track. It's just gonna take a minute, right? You just have to be patient. If I can say that word, patient.
0:34:08.7 Grant: Yep. There's that one again.
0:34:11.0 Jared: Stephanie, you are so much more self-aware than you give yourself credit for. Like the last 90 seconds that you just explained is such an advanced level of this stuff, especially compared to where you used to be and it's the whole point of literally why I wanted to come on here and talk is because old Stephanie would have freaked the fuck out about a medication-related scale spike but you quite literally messaged grant and said, "Hey, this is what's going on." But you know it's irrelevant to actual fat loss and said, "It's no big deal, it's going to spike, here's what's happening." But then you unconsciously leaned into what you know is true, which is your patience, your execution, your consistency and your other data markers. So you stayed neutral even though the scale was guaranteed to spike because you had a medication difference. That's some next level shit. That's incredible.
0:35:09.1 Stephanie: I'm telling you, behind the scenes, like I'm journaling and I have a little bit of doubt and I write it in there and then I close it up and I just toss that aside. 'Cause you have to.
0:35:23.4 Jared: So to further that then, because then you knew those weren't true but you held space for the emotion and said, "I know this is what I'm feeling, I need to hold space for it, I know it's not accurate, just 'cause I feel this way doesn't mean it's true and I'm going to do the thing I'm supposed to do and journal about it." So then like to further the point, that's what the shit I'm talking about is. That's huge.
0:35:41.7 Stephanie: So I'm super grateful for both of you. I think I say that a lot. You might get annoyed on the posts that I post. I'm like...
0:35:48.8 Jared: Never.
0:35:49.6 Stephanie: Super grateful. Super grateful.
0:35:50.7 Grant: Never.
0:35:52.0 Stephanie: 'Cause I just... I would not be anywhere near where I am today if it wasn't for your program, for your wisdom, for your training, for your patience with me through the craziness and I'd call I'm panicking, "I don't get it. Why is it so... "
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0:36:08.4 Grant: That's awesome.
0:36:10.1 Stephanie: So yeah, I'm super grateful for all that. As a matter of fact, there was a video I had that popped up on my little time hop and it was when I was first starting out in the gym in the house, 'cause COVID. And I was just lifting the bar as a bench press and I was struggling and you could see me struggling in the video, you could see my body like no muscle mass, I'm shaking and now I'm doing 100 pounds plus I'm like...
0:36:34.7 Jared: Let's go.
0:36:37.3 Stephanie: Push myself.
0:36:39.2 Jared: Rucking like 30 fucking miles with a backpack on and shit. [laughter] So I'm curious, let me ask you this, this is something I always like to... 'Cause, again, everyone's perspective is different. And I know a lot of it sometimes gets down to that final straw but when it comes to someone really changing their situation, most people will continue to do this on their own, so let's say just to save a little bit of money or anything like that, for you did you have... I guess it's two-sided, did you have any hesitation investing in yourself in something like this but then what made you overcome that, because obviously, you did. And your life has never been the same. So were you hesitant to actually put your money where your mouth is, 'cause I had mentors years ago tell me only people who pay, pay attention and everyone's committed until it's time to put their dollars where... They say that. So for you, did you have hesitation and what made you overcome that if you did?
0:37:30.0 Stephanie: Initially there was this smidgen of hesitation. I had been toying around with the idea of doing your program, 'cause like I said, I've been stalking you so much on TikTok and I like sharing your posts and sharing your text message with my sisters like, look, look what he said, I think I could do this. We should do this. So true, right? We need to listen to this, right? But there was a tiny bit of hesitation because like I said, I had done so many other things before that never panned out, right? And so there was that little bit of hesitation but I think once I finally decided to pull the trigger, I talked to my husband and I was like, I really think I wanna do this. I really think this is gonna help me. And thank you, Jesus, that he is so supportive of everything I've ever done. [chuckle]
0:38:19.5 Stephanie: Even the crazy stuff, even though in the back of his head, he's like, "Oh, please eat more, please eat more." He said, "alright, let's do this." And once the money was gone, in my head then I needed to do the work, 'cause if I'm gonna pay for it, then I need to follow through and do the work, 'cause why else, am I just gonna throw away my money? No, I'm gonna make it what it's worth, right? What I put into it, I'm gonna get my money's worth and so I took complete advantage of everything that was available to me in your program, like texting Grant, emailing him.
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0:39:01.5 Jared: Right. Well and that's the thing is a lot of people will get pushback... Give me some pushback when... Again to be honest even to this day, I don't play the game of like... I'm not trying to bend people's arm into getting them into coaching 'cause that's just not how I like to roll but any time that I say, "Oh, only people who pay, pay attention to their own shit and take it seriously," like whenever I get push back on that, I just ask, "so why aren't you shredded from my Instagram then?" It's 'cause my Instagram is free, my TikTok is free, the podcast is free, the YouTube is free, my email is free, the Facebook group is free. Fuck, what... I had a dude email me one time, then I got him on the podcast, he followed my Instagram and lost 70 pounds and the dude's never paid me a dime in his life, lost 70 pounds because he was a professional executor but most people, when they're getting something totally for free like that, it's why most people listening to this who got triggered when I said only people who pay, pay attention and they're like, "oh no, that's not true, I pay attention" but I'm like "but then you're not taking the advice that we teach for free." It's different when you have your own money on the line because it's one of the only things that we view as valuable, so I had this happen when...
0:40:10.4 Jared: I have... The mentor I currently work with personally, when I first worked with him, it was the most... It was the scariest amount of money I've ever put down on... It was the most... It was the biggest card transaction I've ever had. And as soon as I made the transaction, I got emotional because I'm like, "What did I do?" I sent this motherfucker 20Gs, $20,000. I'm not saying that to look at me and just to give everyone context, the mentor that I'm currently still working with, which means I paid him more than that again. As soon as I wired the money, it was a double-edged sword. I was emotional, I was like scared and I'm like, What did I just commit to? But I have never taken more intentional, diligent, hard action in my fucking life and ironically, the ROI within the first 30 days for me was there. It's because as soon as you do that, your actions are... You're operating out of a different place and it's crazy what life... How much life moves out of your way when you actually bet on yourself, right? I think it's a crazy thing.
0:41:17.2 Stephanie: Yeah, absolutely. I have a perfect example of that too, with my kid. My kid is 19. I have bought her two cars and she's wrecked both of them, one was not her fault, the other one was also not her fault but it could have been avoided but I've paid for those. Right? So now I'm like, no more cars, I'm not buying you any more cars, right? She put down her hard earned cash and bought herself a brand new vehicle, I tell you what, she's like, "Nobody better park close to me. Did you scratch my door? You better make sure you clean this out before you leave." It's different.
0:41:52.9 Grant: Starts going 15 under the speed limit.
0:41:54.3 Stephanie: It's a different shift when you put your money on it, because then it's your investment, you're invested in it, you could lose out on something if you don't take care of it, right? So I think it's the same, same thing, right? You just appreciate it more.
0:42:09.0 Jared: Yeah. I think when we don't put our money where our mouth is, it doesn't cost us anything, it doesn't hurt when we don't show up for ourselves, because most people are so used to living in suffering that it doesn't hurt that bad because they're so used to it. It's like there's an old saying of this dog is sitting on a porch howling and just barking, barking, barking and the person walking by says, "Hey, why does your dog keep barking just sitting there?" He goes, "Oh, he's sitting on a tack," and he goes, "Well, why doesn't he get up?" He goes, "It doesn't hurt bad enough to get up but it hurts just enough to bitch about it," and that's where most people are at, because most people are so used to suffering it's not that bad waking up in suffering every day but when we put our money where our mouth is and go, I have no choice but to execute, then guess whose fault it is if you don't execute, because I think it all goes back to that radical ownership but it's just one of those things where it all comes down to what hurts enough and for most people, it doesn't hurt enough until your money is on the line, that's just my personal prerogative. 'Cause first, that's how I operate, right? I think that's how everyone operates, so.
0:43:15.9 Stephanie: Yeah, I think for the most part, I think it's foolish to invest in yourself and then not do anything with it, right?
0:43:21.3 Jared: Yeah.
0:43:22.7 Stephanie: I mean, I own my own business, I invested in myself, right? I'm not gonna just toss it to the side and half-ass it. No, I'm gonna hustle and I'm gonna do really good work, I'm gonna go get training, it's just, yeah. It's like, what are you willing to do for the long-term effects? I think that was another TikTok you did. Right now you think it's easy and you're not having all the ramifications of the long-term damage that you're doing to your body but then in the end, you're gonna pay for it because you're going to the doctors, you're having to pay for medication. So if you stop the cycle now, then you're not gonna have all those ramifications later. Right? I think that... 'Cause I was like, I don't wanna have all those medical bills later on, I wanna be healthy now, so that I can do all those things, like go on all these crazy hiking trips with my husband and keep up with him because he's 6'5" and his stride is like three of mine.
0:44:15.4 Jared: Oh shit. [laughter] I feel that. Well and I think people forget about that. 'Cause it's interesting that most people use the correct part of their brain with this stuff with anything else other than their transformation with like, let's say like investments on IRA, buying a house, getting a job that you can work at forever, we use this part of our brain a lot because if you don't get your retirement in check now, well then fuck, you're fucked when you're 70. If you don't get the job that you plan to work in the rest of your life now, then it's gonna suck when you are a lot older, whatever the case is. But when it comes to this, people think, Oh no, I don't wanna invest in... And this, for those listeners, I'm not even saying it has to be with us, I'm just talking in general.
0:45:02.8 Jared: They're so unwilling to invest in themselves now but then what's gonna happen when they're past 40, 30 years 'cause this yo-yo dieting thing, it damages your metabolism. It gives you more negative momentum psychologically and the longer someone stays in it, the longer they're going to keep staying in it and then ironically, you have medications to pay for, you're eating more, so you're paying for more food, you're having to do all these extra things, you're gonna pay for it regardless. So my thought philosophy is, why not do it now on your watch and make your life so much better so you don't suffer for the next 30 years and then have to pay for it?
0:45:37.5 Stephanie: Yeah, yeah, so true.
0:45:39.5 Jared: It's like that bill is gonna get interest one way or the other. [laughter] Grant, from your perspective, from the coaching brain, why was Stephanie so successful? Especially from some... From take aways, people listening can go, oh, if I wanna be successful, I should probably do those same things. Like what made Stephanie so successful with this? 'Cause not just during coaching but then beyond... You haven't fucking coached her in like two years, so why though was it... Why has she been so successful from your coaching brain?
0:46:10.1 Grant: Yeah, so part of... Just to go a step back and then work forward, so a lot of what coaching is, is it's kind of more or less analyzing a person's strengths, right? And then it's just figuring out a way to do all of the stuff that we need to get done utilizing their strengths. So Stephanie, you are disciplined as a motherfucker, right? So you've got that background in the military, you've got that drive, that dedication, so it's literally utilizing that playing into that and using that strength to develop the appropriate mindset that will get you anywhere that you need to go or to create the habits that will get you anywhere that you need to go and just do all of the things that you need to do.
0:46:48.6 Grant: So for example, anyone that's out there watching it, I mean literally, it's just look at your current strengths, what do you do really well with and then figure out how you can use that to create the better path to do all the things that you need to get done, use your strengths to be able to execute on things and I think that that's what you did a really good job of is utilizing your strengths, playing the cards that you were dealt to the absolute best that you can play them so that you're gonna win the pot.
0:47:16.8 Stephanie: Yeah, yeah.
0:47:18.7 Jared: Stephanie, did you find yourself almost because of how like from the military side of things, being so all or nothing, being so disciplined, being so like I can fucking suffer better than anyone, did you find a hard time almost letting go of a little bit of that to have balance and moderation and not be so crazy like, "Hardest worker in the room." And it's like, no, there's a better way. Did you have a hard time almost letting go of some of that though? I'm just curious.
0:47:47.4 Stephanie: No, not necessarily, 'cause I've been in the civilian world long enough that I have a little bit of that balance but there was definitely a mind shift starting into this, when I fully committed, I did have to kind of pull back the reins, just a smidge, just because that is my natural instinct to do. And so it's a constant thing, actually a little bit every day, if I'm gonna be honest, where I have to pull back the reins. I know everyone thinks that I love... I do love working out but there is the little part of me every morning I wake up that I wrestle with where it's like, "Or I could just sleep just a little bit longer," or "That guy is gonna talk to me again, I don't really wanna go." [laughter] But I get up anyway because that's what I've built in as a habit, right?
0:48:43.7 Jared: Yeah.
0:48:44.0 Stephanie: And I think you even talked about the habit stacking, right? So there's a reward afterwards after I've worked out, so then it's like it's pleasurable because the endorphins are kicking in and then the rest of my day goes smoother because I did the hard thing first, right? So, yeah.
0:49:00.5 Jared: Well, that's the hard... I always say anything good has a dichotomy and that's the dichotomy and the double-edged sword of things like discipline and great and all these great character traits. Whereas if you go too hard with them, it's unsustainable, rigid and there's no happiness but at what point it's like, where does discipline meet grace, right? And balance where it's like, Oh, you know what, I fucked up. It's fine, I'm back on track. I'm not gonna beat myself up. And that's the thing is I think you have cultivated a very beautiful dichotomy of that, I'm not sure if it's maybe having to go from hardcore military to civilian life and so it's like you have all this old conditioning here but then current life here, so you've had be able to put your toe in both... Each foot in both pools of water but I think that's something, especially for those listening to really lean into, is that this is why all or nothing and perfectionism doesn't exist. It's everything... Everything has a dichotomy just like that. So.
0:49:53.3 Stephanie: Yeah, if you're an all or nothing... If I was... Literally if I would let go of the reins and let... Just go balls to the wall, right? I would get injured, I would physically hurt myself trying to do too much and then that would set me back more even further than I would wanna be, right? So I'd rather slowly truck along.
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0:50:17.2 Grant: 'Cause that was another thing that we would have to kind of work a lot on, right? Or maybe I'm off base on this but if I remember right, you would send me out a message and you're like, "Hey, I hurt my ankle" or something like that, "What should I do?" Well, just chill for a bit and just rest and relax and recover and you're like, "But no, how can I still do this thing to 150% of my effort with this injury?" And it's like, we don't. We gotta... So I think that was a big thing, it's playing into your strengths and then knowing when it's time to attack, when it's time to defend.
0:50:46.2 Stephanie: Yeah, I definitely... Through this program too, I've also learned like, there's a time to rest, right? And that was the hardest thing to learn too in the beginning was like, I could rest. It's okay. Things are still happening even when I'm resting, my body's still working.
0:51:06.3 Jared: Fuck, that's a powerful one.
0:51:08.6 Stephanie: Yeah, stuff is still happening even though I'm not actually physically moving or I'm not pushing weights or rocking, things are still happening because I've built up this habit... How is it called? 80-20, right? 80% of what you do and then 20% isn't gonna hurt you, right? I can't remember if I said that right.
0:51:35.2 Jared: Yeah, yeah, you're... Yeah, no, absolutely, yeah. Yeah, no, 100%. It's what you do the majority of the time that matters and it kinda overlooks what you do some of the time.
0:51:42.6 Stephanie: Yeah, rest is not gonna hurt you. And so I learned that so now today, I'm going to the gym but I'm not gonna get to go as hard as I want to because my husband's not with me and that's okay, right? That's okay.
0:51:55.7 Jared: Yeah, that's awesome, I love that. This has been so good. I can't believe 45 minutes has already flown by. This is so good. Final question. So Stephanie, from your perspective, if someone's listening to this and they're in the shoes you used to be in and they're just like, where the fuck do I even start 'cause I wanna be like Stephanie, what are some couple of thoughts from your perspective? They're in the shoes you used to be in, what would you say?
0:52:23.7 Stephanie: You're worthy. Your health is worth it. It's going to be hard. You can't quit. And love yourself. And if you really love yourself, you'll do what it takes to be healthy and to take care of yourself.
0:52:43.7 Jared: I love that, that's so good. Grant, any final thoughts on that?
0:52:46.2 Grant: I don't know if I could have said that any better myself.
0:52:49.4 Jared: Let's go.
0:52:50.7 Grant: I think it's again, realize that you are worthy of achieving your goals. And then I really do think that's a lot of it, right? It's understanding that you deserve the best in life for yourself, so why would you ever do anything but that? Whatever it needs to be that you need to get done, just go out there and do it because you deserve it.
0:53:08.1 Jared: Yeah, I think for... And we'll cap it on this, I think for those that are listening that like right about now, that old narrative's coming up like, "No, you don't get it. Back when I was a kid... " Well, you don't understand, I'm not because of... For those listening, when Stephanie said that, if your ego had an issue with that, if the old self had something to say and it's like, actually you may not be as worthy as you think you are, understand that just because you felt that doesn't mean it's true. And one of... This is something I stole from Kyle Cease. The favorite question to ask is, ask your ego at what point you are worthy and your ego has a brain fart and it can't answer it, 'cause it's how you should have any argument. Like, Well, you're not worthy. Okay, at what point am I? And your ego will go, Ah, next question, please. So I think that was a very good way to cap this. Thank you so much, Stephanie for doing this. This has been amazing. I really, really appreciate it.
0:54:05.4 Stephanie: Thank you guys.
0:54:08.2 Jared: Thank you.
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0:57:35.5 Jared: And what it is it's basically my five-day email course giving you what I call the ABCs of fat loss being simplified on what to do, what not to do, how to start getting results without all the diet culture or drama bullshit. I know I just verbally threw up all over you but I just wanna help you in any way that I can. Otherwise, I appreciate the fuck out of you for being here. Thank you so much. I will talk to you in next week's episode.
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Stephanie’s Story:
Before coaching, Stephanie was in a cycle of trying to figure out how to lose weight in the quickest way possible. She tried various fad diets, only to fall off and then gain the weight back—and then some.
Her military background did benefit her in that she never had an issue with working out, but because of her weight, it was painful to do so. Stephanie was on Phentermine, a medication that is used to reduce appetite, in addition to various diets like Weight Watchers and keto.
Stephanie was at a point where she hated herself. She couldn’t play with her daughter or even walk her a block to school.
During this time, her doctor had brought up the possibility of having gastric bypass surgery, but that possibility scared Stephanie because she personally knew someone who, after getting a gastric bypass, ended up with a number of health issues and vitamin deficiencies. It was also around this time that Stephanie discovered Jared’s content on TikTok.
Stephanie hit rock bottom when, one day, her daughter asked her to chase her at the park and she couldn’t. Not being able to play with her daughter was a wake-up call for her.
Through coaching, Stephanie discovered many triggers and reasons why she would self-sabotage. She was able to set boundaries with her mother—who had a habit of saying things that threw off Stephanie’s mental game.
She learned about calorie intake, foods she needed to eat—like getting her veggies in—and healthy balance through the 180 Impact Program.
Stephanie was also able to let go of her desire for weight loss and rediscovered her love of working out and getting strong.
Where the Shift Started:
For Stephanie, the mastery over her weight loss struggles came when she had a conversation with Grant. She was expressing a desire to be strong and Grant asked her what it would look like if the scale never moved, but she was strong like she wanted to be.
After the call, Stephanie realized that she was happy being strong, she didn’t need the weight loss, her blood work was good, and she was healthy. From there she was able to embrace this new outlook.
Grant sees a lot of people who believe that they need to meet their goals while they are working with a coach, but in reality, the goal of coaching is to set the clients up for long-term success—where they continue working towards their evolving goals for years to come.
Stephanie still uses the workouts that Grant gave her when she was a client two years ago and is active in posting her workouts and progress. She gets to enjoy teasing her husband because she is stronger and enjoys working towards her goals and staying on track, even years after graduating from 180 Impact.
Grant saw the shift come for Stephanie when she started keeping the big picture in mind and wasn’t tied to losing a certain amount of weight in a certain amount of time. He also noticed that her relationship with food started to shift.
When Stephanie went from viewing food as something to lose weight with to something to fuel her body, she was able to allow herself to have the things she wanted.
This shift happened for Stephanie naturally, over time. She let go of the need to track everything and realized that if she forgot it was okay. She is also very much a creature of habit, though, so she utilizes meal prep so she doesn’t mindlessly eat. This self-awareness has been key in Stephanie’s ability to make and maintain her progress.
Letting Go of Timelines:
Stephanie was able to let go of her desire to reach her weight loss goals when, 1) she heard Jared talk about how you don’t gain weight overnight, and you don’t lose it overnight—it’s a process, and 2) she realized that, even without the scale moving, her clothes were fitting better. Her husband also noticed the changes and told her she was looking good—and people at the gym noticed she was looking better, and they told her as much.
All of these things made her realize that she didn’t need to worry so much about the number on the scale.
Grant remembers looking at Stephanie’s progress pictures with her. At first, she was not able to see her own progress, but when they were able to compare her first photo with her fifth—she started to be able to see and appreciate the changes.
Jared brings up how we get what we look for. If you are looking for negatives, you will find negatives—because of the reticular activating system. Your mind will show you the things you are focused on and are looking for.
Stephanie remembers either Grant or Jared telling her to “call out the progress” with every little thing, because it was something she really struggled with in the beginning. This concept helped Stephanie so much that she keeps the words “Call Out The Progress” written on the mirror in her home gym.
Jared finds that people are so reluctant to call out their progress because they are used to failure and have a sense of unworthiness.
Stephanie agrees and recalls how she would beat herself up in the beginning when she struggled to call out her progress and when she felt unworthy.
There were times early in her weight loss journey when the scale would be down and she would self-sabotage by over-eating.
She felt unworthy of being successful.
This was driven through experiences like having doctors tell her that she was just a “healthy fat person” or having nurses tell her she was obese and needed to do something about her weight—when, at that point, Stephanie was working out 6 days a week and had an undiscovered thyroid issue.
Getting Through the Rocky Times:
Grant recalls that each time Stephanie had an adjustment on her medication the scale would do some crazy things for a while. Over time, however, she was able to realize that it was perfectly normal and that it would be okay.
For Stephanie, going through the experience of having her medication adjusted, sticking with her program, and seeing her progress get back on course over and over really drove home the idea that she can always get back on track. She just needed to have patience.
Jared is very impressed with how self-aware Stephanie is with her weight loss—especially when compared with where she started.
Stephanie is very diligent about journaling and setting aside her feelings and doubts and sticking with what she knows works.
Getting Over the Hesitation to Hire a Coach:
Stephanie had some hesitation to sign-up for 180 Impact because she had tried so many different things and failed. But with the encouragement of her sister and the support of her husband, she was able to make the leap.
For Stephanie, once the money was gone, she needed to get serious. She was motivated to take complete advantage of everything that was available to her through the program.
Jared reiterates that he does not want to twist anyone’s arm when it comes to coaching, but he believes that people who pay, pay attention. Jared gets pushback from people all the time about this, but he knows of very few people who can follow his free content and achieve their goals. He recalls one guy who followed his Instagram and lost 70 lbs, but most people cannot execute in that way.
Jared’s current mentor was the largest investment he has personally made. When he first started working with him, the moment of transferring the money to pay for mentorship made him emotional. He immediately wondered, “what did I just do?” but, consequently, it made him work even harder and he has seen a great ROI.
Stephanie experienced this same concept with her daughter, who had previously wrecked two cars that Stephanie bought her. Though neither accident was her fault, Stephanie told her she wasn’t going to buy her another car.
Her daughter has since bought her own car—with her own hard-earned money—and is much more aware when it comes to taking care of it.
Stephanie believes that stopping the cycle and getting healthy now not only lets someone enjoy their life, but also not have to worry about medical bills down the line.
What Made Stephanie Successful:
As a coach, Grant is used to analyzing the strengths of his clients and helping them lean into them. Stephanie is very disciplined and was able to use that to get to where she wanted to be.
Grant advises those listening to identify their strengths and use those to the best of their ability to accomplish their goals.
In the beginning, Stephanie did have a little bit of a struggle when it came to pulling back and not going overboard in trying to push herself, but part of what she learned in 180 Impact was that there is a time to rest and that she doesn't need to be constantly moving and working out.
Final Thoughts From Stephanie:
Stephanie’s advice is to know that you are worthy, that your health is worth it, not to quit, and always love yourself.
If you really love yourself, you’ll do what it takes to love yourself and take care of yourself.
Jared wants those listening to know if their old self—or their ego—tried to give a rebuttal to what Stephanie said, just ask it, “at what point ARE you worthy?”
You’ll find that it doesn’t have an answer—and that’s because you’re always worthy.
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