Dieting From The Inside Out
- Jul 17

How Lynn Ended Nearly 60 Years of Struggles & Found Food Freedom | DFIO Ep.277

About Today’s Episode:

Welcome back to a brand new episode of Dieting from the Inside Out. I have SUCH a cool interview for you today! I am interviewing one of my coaches, Sydnee, and her client, Lynn.

I wanted to get Lynn on the show because I know her story will change your entire perspective. Lynn is in her 60s and has struggled with dieting for decades. Since she started working with Coach Sydnee, Lynn has been able to completely 180 her life in just 4 months.

Think about that—5 or 6 decades worth of struggle, of yo-yo dieting, of failure, and weight gain, all the stuff, repaired because of our Dieting From The Inside Out methodology—because of the inner game tweaks and adjustments.

She has been able to end 50-60 years worth of struggle in 4 months and it has been the most amazing thing to watch firsthand.

Today, I want to show you her perspective. I want her to walk you through why this has been so successful and why she was able to do this.

So, if you're out there feeling like you're too far gone, you're too old, you’ve struggled for too long, I'm telling you—I want you to stay for this entire thing because Lynn's story will change everything for you.

If she can do it, there's no reason you can't.

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Intro & About Today’s Episode

02:22 Our Sponsors

06:00 About Lynn & Her Progress

11:55 Sydnee’s Perspective on Lynn’s Progress

19:56 Why Sydnee Believes Lynn Has Been So Successful

24:31 What Made Lynn Take the Leap

30:26 How Lynn Feels Now

35:12 Lynn’s Success and the Impact on Her Life

44:09 Sydnee’s Approach with Lynn

50:33 Advice from Lynn

54:20 Outro—Freebies & How to Apply for Coaching

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How Lynn Ended Nearly 60 Years of Struggles & Found Food Freedom | DFIO Ep.277

0:00:00.0 Lynn: Even after gastric bypass, I found ways to binge, I found ways to do mindless snacking, and gained 70 pounds doing it. I had total knee replacement surgery and I could barely move, but I got to that pantry and I got to that refrigerator. It's like I couldn't stop myself. And I have not binged or had an unplanned snack the entire time I've been working this.

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0:00:27.1 Jared: What's going on, friend? I hope you are well. Welcome back to a brand new episode of Dieting From The Inside Out, my podcast. I'm so stoked that you are here, and I have such a cool interview and story for you today. Today I'm interviewing one of my coaches, Sydnee, but also her client Lynn, because I think Lynn's story will change your entire perspective and just change everything. Because long story short, Lynn is in her 60s but has struggled with this "dieting for decades" game, as I like to put it, for 50 if not into her 60s, for that long. For the last 50 plus years, five decades at least of struggle, she was able to end in four months. And I wanna show you how she did it. Think about that. Five or six decades worth of struggle, worth of yo-yo dieting, worth of just failure and weight gain, all of the stuff. And because of the Dieting from The Inside Out methodology that I teach you, because of the inner game tweaks and adjustments, she was able to end 50, 60 years worth of struggle in four months. And it has been the most amazing thing to watch firsthand. And I want to show you, from her perspective, I want her to walk you through this, why this has been so successful and why she was able to do this.

0:01:56.1 Jared: So if you're out there feeling like you're too far gone, you're too old, you struggled for too long, I'm telling you, I want you to stay for this entire thing because I think Lynn's perspective in her story around this will just change everything for you, because if she can do it, there's no reason you can't. So I know you're going to get a lot out of this. Sorry, words are hard, I guess today. I know you're gonna get a lot out of this and I can't wait for you to hear what's gonna happen. But before we get into all that, big thank you to the sponsors of the show.

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0:03:46.2 Jared: Now, excuse me. Sponsor number two is 1st Phorm. I am rocking one of the 1st Phorm baseball tees, I believe this is what they call these. But anyway, big thank you to 1st Phorm for being a sponsor of myself and the show. Because we all know supplements are not the end all, be all. Supplements are not the thing that you should be relying all of your success on. But that doesn't mean they don't have their time and their place. Because most normal people, like you and me, are not getting enough protein in on our own. We're not getting the vitamins and minerals we need. We aren't eating enough fish to even help with inflammation. All of these different kinds of things. So if you are not getting something that you need out of food, then you may want to consider looking into the supplemental form of that. Otherwise, you're gonna miss on that entire category of micronutrients, like vitamins and minerals, or enough protein or whatever the case is.

0:04:36.8 Jared: That's all supplements are for, is to fill the gaps you aren't getting with food. Most people over-hype them and it's just not the appropriate way to go about it, but they do make a difference when you aren't getting those gaps filled with real food. So the thing is though, not all supplements are created equal. This is why I love 1st Phorm so much is because I know I'm getting quality. I know you are gonna get quality. I know that what that label says is safe and it's accurate and it's trusted and it's been tested, and you can't say that about everything on the market. Most people go to Walmart or go to Amazon and just try to find the cheapest, least shittiest tasting thing ever, then they wonder why their supplements aren't working for them or it's upsetting their stomach or they don't feel as good or the results aren't as good. Well, it's because you get what you pay for.

0:05:19.2 Jared: So that's why I love 1st Phorm. That's why we work with them. And if that's kind of your cup of tea and you wanna see kind of what they have going on and wanna upgrade what you're taking, definitely go check out the 1st Phorm link below, wherever it's at in the show notes. And check that out there, and that way you can kinda see what's going on on that front and maybe upgrade what you're taking. And then if you're not sure where to get started with supplements or that kind of thing, I do have a supplement YouTube video that kind of points you in the right directions I talk about, what I take, I talk about what most of our clients take, and things like that. But otherwise, that is it. And now, I cannot wait for you to hear from Sydnee and Lynn. And I'm telling you, take what Lynn is about to say in the story she tells to heart, because it's gonna change everything for you. I'll see you in just a second.

0:06:00.9 Jared: I appreciate you guys doing this. Thank you so much for taking a Saturday to do this. I know scheduling is crazy, but... So Lynn, give a little bit of idea for those that have no idea about any of this. What's your story before coaching even happened? 'Cause there's some stuff I wanna bring up, but I want to hear from your perspective, your story.

0:06:20.0 Lynn: Yeah. I was overweight pretty much my whole life. I just saw a picture someone sent me, a cousin of me, at about six, and I was very chunky. And at nine, mom took me to Weight Watchers. And early on I learned that I was not accepted for who I was. I was not accepted 'cause I was chubby. I didn't eat the right things. And the messages were deep, real deep. And so she would send me to school with these tuna in a margarine container with roasted peppers, and I'm 9-years-old, and I want a peanut butter and jelly, and she would say that's fattening. Never had a birthday cake 'cause it was fattening. So my whole house was always on a diet, always looking for the next best thing.

0:07:08.0 Lynn: And I've done many things, many things, from Weight Watchers to as far as I had gastric bypass surgery. And I've lost 100 pounds three times. And the last time I only gained back half, before I started looking at another way. I call it "teasing," but really it was bullying that I got, from being a child to middle school to high school. It just gives you a really negative impression of yourself and really hard to let that go. And it was a deep, deep-seated thing for me. And on the masterclass I commented that changing my identity was a game changer for me. Just seeing it all down on paper really changed. So when those thoughts come in today, no, that's old identity.

0:08:09.3 Jared: Yeah. [laughter]

0:08:11.6 Lynn: And I was journaling before about the perfection. No, that's old identity. You're gonna say what you're gonna say and that's all you got, so.

0:08:22.2 Jared: I love that. That's literally the epitome of Dieting from The Inside Out, is because if we don't do that stuff, nothing on the surface works. Nothing on the surface literally matters, right? So for perspective, I know I'm not supposed to ask this but it's fine, 'cause I gotta put my foot in my mouth more.

0:08:36.9 Lynn: Sure.

0:08:37.8 Jared: For those listening, how old are you?

0:08:40.2 Lynn: [chuckle] How old do I look? No... [laughter]

0:08:41.8 Jared: Well, I know how old you are, but...

[laughter]

0:08:45.1 Lynn: I'll be 66 next month.

0:08:47.0 Jared: That's what I'm talking about. So for you, that is... So you said you started Weight Watchers at nine. So just to make numbers easy, you were working against almost six decades of old conditioning, six decades of struggle. But how long have you and Sydnee been actually doing your thing?

0:09:05.0 Lynn: Since the beginning of March.

0:09:06.3 Jared: March, April, May, June, July. So like what? Four months-ish?

0:09:09.7 Lynn: Yeah. Yeah.

0:09:10.1 Jared: So would you have believed me in the beginning if I said, "Hey, we're gonna fix six decades worth of struggle in a little over 100 days?" [laughter]

0:09:19.2 Lynn: Never. I constantly did... Even after gastric bypass, I found ways to binge, I found ways to do mindless snacking, and gained 70 pounds doing it. I had total knee replacement surgery two years ago and I could barely move, but I got to that pantry and I got to that refrigerator. It's like I couldn't stop myself, and I have not binged or had an unplanned recorded snack the entire time I've been working this.

0:09:55.3 Jared: That's crazy. I love that. That's incredible. How's that feel from your perspective?

0:10:00.4 Lynn: It's so freeing. It's so freeing to... And I know the word isn't allowed, but that's what it feels to me, that I can have birthday cake, and that I can have cookies and I can have candy. I just fit it in my deficit. And some days, it is kind of rare that I go over my deficit, but if I do, I do. 4th of July, there was food, and when I got home there wasn't another morsel in my mouth. And I got up the next day and took my walk with the dog and I had... I always planned my food the day before and it's all in MyFitnessPal. And I moved forward. And that's the biggest thing I have not given up. I have not given up.

0:10:46.4 Jared: I love that. That's the thing is, this is not the most popular thing in the fitness space and diet culture to say is, but there are so many times you should go over on your calories. 'Cause that's the thing is. I was talking with a good friend of mine, he's another RD, really good friend of mine. And him and I were talking about this and he said, he goes, one thing he teaches his clients is that it just comes down to, in this moment, what's the priority? Is it being in my calorie deficit or is it, "No, I wanna have a great 4th of July with my family?" Because the 300 calories you might overeat over, that's not a binge. That is you saying, "You know what? I don't wanna be in my deficit today and this is the priority," but we made it now part of the plan. It's not like you were off plan. It was... The plan was just adjusted for the goals of the day. And then the next day you were back in the walking the dogs and doing your stuff. You know what I mean?

0:11:35.1 Lynn: Yeah. And all that stuff that I did before, you always say this, it's not sustainable. I always lost weight. Clearly if I've lost a hundred pounds three times, I've lost weight. But once I got down there, then it's like, "Now what?" Well, now, go have your cookies, go have your cake, go have... 'Cause I wasn't having that before.

0:11:56.1 Jared: Sydnee, what's your perspective on all this? Literally with... To say six decades of struggle stopped in four months, that's like... I don't think I would even ever be comfortable putting that on a coaching page, because I think people would think I'm a scam artist. [chuckle] You know what I mean? That just sounds too good to be true. But this is our day-to-day, almost most people that we work with, this is what happens, decades gone in months. And so from your perspective, 'cause you've been the one in the trenches with her, what's your side of this?

0:12:27.6 Sydnee: Yeah, no, for sure. I remember on our welcome call, Lynn had a lot of self-doubt like, "Why this time? What's gonna make this different? It's up to me to take that first bite, it's up to me to stop." And in that first check-in, we talked a lot, a lot about identity, and she did one of my favorite identity things that I have ever seen, where she literally put down like, "Okay, if I stand on the scale and I freak out, then that's old identity. This is what I'm going to do." So she had it broken down to a whole T-chart of old identity, new identity. So when she would feel that old identity creep up, she would go reference her chart and tell herself what that new identity was supposed to do and just act that way. And there was a lot of that correction at the beginning, but Lynn really took it to heart and put in the work, did the uncomfortable and would recognize, "Hey, I stepped on the scale, the number was up, I felt bad. But nope, that's the old identity. Instead, I'm just gonna move on with my day." That didn't make her break. And so I think really just going all in on that identity work, not being afraid to call herself out, and make sure that she was constantly correcting towards that new identity is where the magic has happened.

0:13:47.2 Jared: I love that. Lynn, you've done such a really good job at what... Something that I've noticed lately is, it's all a game of observing. Because one thing people go wrong is when they start to assume everything they think and feel is true and accurate, that's where we go south, versus... We have multiple selves. There's a book, my wife just read it, by a psychologist, I think it's called No Bad Parts. And they compare each of us like a garlic clove. We have so many parts to us, so many chambers, like each clove and then each section of each clove. 'Cause I've always thought about with identity, old self, all this stuff is it's almost like, "Okay, over here is old self and over here is new identity, and then here I am sitting back watching these two fuckers bicker." That's the way I've always viewed this, and you've done a really good job at that. Then that's why, like you said, something would happen and you go, "Wait. No, no, no." You would observe and go, "That's old identity. Well, what does the new identity say? What is the version I'm supposed to be saying?" And then you do the simple work, not easy but simple. You go, "Well, what actions are in alignment with that version of me? Okay, I guess I'm just gonna do that." And it just makes this a little more streamlined, and that's why you've been able to crush so much. [laughter]

0:14:58.2 Lynn: Yeah. And I remember sending an email to Sydnee. I very rarely do. I'm just always doing the work. I'm always on your... I listen to your podcast, I'm on your... The member calls and all, and I was just... I don't remember what it was about 'cause I have that CRS, can't remember shit, so...

[laughter]

0:15:19.1 Jared: I love that so much.

[laughter]

0:15:21.8 Lynn: So I forget what was happening. Maybe you would remember, Sydnee. And I'm retired now, so my brain doesn't work at all. And I just...

[laughter]

0:15:31.2 Jared: I'm crying. That was so funny. [laughter]

0:15:34.0 Lynn: You never heard that?

0:15:35.1 Jared: No.

0:15:35.5 Lynn: Okay, now am I dating myself? [laughter]

0:15:37.3 Jared: No, I love that. I just love it when 60-year-olds cuss. I think that's what it is.

0:15:42.9 Lynn: Oh, I was telling my neighbor about this last night and she said, "Will they bleep out if you say, fuck?" And I said, "No." [laughter]

0:15:51.9 Jared: Fuck, no.

0:15:52.0 Lynn: I said, "They say it all the time," which makes it so comfortable and real.

0:15:56.2 Jared: That's right, that's right.

0:15:57.0 Lynn: Also makes it really comfortable and real. But I was freaking out about something and I sent her this whole email, and then she wrote me back and gave me the steps that I knew what to take. I just forgot for a second. So yeah, it's been a game changer. And I've been in therapy on and off for many years. I haven't in a while, but I don't know, Jared, if it's the words you use, old identity, new identity, or sabotage. That's a big one for me that I'm seeing. And I'll tell you a story in a second, but your words make so much sense to me. And the sabotages, I remember one morning I got up and I didn't wanna go. I didn't wanna go do the walk. And these thoughts are starting to enter my head and I stopped them and I said, "You are starting to sabotage. Get up."

0:16:58.9 Jared: Yes, yes. I love that.

0:17:02.0 Lynn: I've never thought... I was after the fact, "Oh shit, I sabotaged myself," but now I'm starting to think ahead about sabotaging. And I also learned that I can do a workout at 5:00 PM. I don't have to do it first thing in the morning. That's really unusual for me. I would get up at 4:00 in the morning before work to go to the gym.

0:17:25.2 Jared: You're a better person than me. Fuck that. [laughter]

0:17:26.3 Lynn: No, I don't do that. Yeah. And again, not sustainable. And my old identity would say, "If you don't do it now, you're never gonna do it." I'm already sabotaging myself.

0:17:39.0 Jared: Absolutely. And there's so much power in remaking yourself. And a lot of people though, they fuck themselves, they sabotage themselves, and they go, "I'm too old to... You can't teach an old dog new tricks. Oh, I'm too far gone. I've struggled this long." All those are stories that don't serve you, that are old identities. When someone says anything like that like, "Oh, changing your identity isn't that easy." I go, "Who taught you that? Where'd you learn that?" That's another bullshit identity that is creeping in 'cause it's a sneaky little bastard. But that's what's nuts is, one of my favorite quotes, I can't remember who said it, is, "You have no responsibility to be the same person you were five minutes ago."

0:18:18.2 Jared: If I'm on this podcast and wanna change my life right now and go, "You know what? This behavior is not tolerable anymore." Shifted. I could do that right fucking now. But we get it in our heads that, "Oh, I'm not able to, it's not that easy, it's not that quick." But if we compare it to anything else in our lives, it's that way. When most people, they're not pregnant then they have a kid, their identity shifted, "I'm a mom now." Or as soon as you get the credential, you're like, "I'm a RN now." Or as soon as you clocked out for the last time you went, "I'm retired now." We have these moments and times where our identity shifts. Sometimes it takes a long time for some people to get to that moment, but the identity always shifts in a moment. Then the hard part comes, our actions have to align, and that's what solidifies it.

0:19:01.9 Lynn: Right.

0:19:02.8 Jared: Sydnee, so from your perspective, why has Lynn been so successful? 'Cause actually, to be honest, I think now, I think Lynn has the biggest trophy of years of struggle. It's been 40 years. It's been 40 years in four months fixed. You just took the cake, so...

0:19:22.2 Sydnee: Yeah. [laughter] You're the one to beat. [laughter]

0:19:25.1 Jared: Yeah. So you just set the mark, which is incredible. It's proof that it's never too late. I guarantee you there's so many people that are gonna be listening to this going, "Holy shit. Well, if 'can't remember shit' lady can do it, there's no reason I can't." That's why I wanted to get on here and do this is because I can tell someone this shit till I'm blue in the face. Sydnee can tell people this till they're blue in the face, but it's not going to impress upon people the same way you who have been through it. It's like, oh, you can't argue with that, you know? So, Sydnee, from your perspective, why has she been so successful and why has this been able to happen so quickly?

0:20:02.4 Sydnee: I think a big part of it is when she first started, there was a part of her identity where in the past the things that she had tried, she would lie about things, right? To make it look like she was doing the work, make it look like she wasn't headed to the fridge and pantry. And she decided from day one, "Nope, I'm gonna be completely honest with you. I'm gonna record my data. I'm gonna tell you the things that actually went on." So I think honesty was a huge, huge thing that helped. I think that there was a... A really, another really big shift. She was going on a vacation in April and all of my clients know that whenever they're getting ready for a vacation, I get super excited because I had a terrible experience with a vacation where I was just awful. And if you're my client, you know that whole story. So I always get on my soapbox about vacation. Go have the memories, don't obsess about the food. The four days isn't gonna kill you. Go make these incredible memories, have the most amazing time with your husband, right? And so I get super excited like, "Oh my gosh, Lynn's on vacation this week. I can't wait to hear back." And her check-in comes in and she was very stressed and she felt guilty with the food that she ate, and she really struggled during that vacation. And so I was feeling a little bit like...

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0:21:16.0 Sydnee: And we get to the very end of her check-in, and I'm gonna just share one little part of that check-in, Lynn, if that's okay.

0:21:23.9 Lynn: Sure.

0:21:24.4 Sydnee: But she said, "When I finished my check-in, I watched the call about RAS and it hit me right between the eyes. I've been focusing on all the negatives of the trip where I was the most uncomfortable. If I focus on the wins, this check-in would've been so much different. I'm not gonna change it 'cause I feel it's important that you know what's going on in my head, but I'm not feeling so down on myself. Instead, I'm gonna list all of the wins." And so her wins were that she's back on track before that never would've happened. She's being honest with the number that's showing up on the scale. She didn't sneak any food during the trip, although her meals weren't what she wanted them to be. They were just meals. "I didn't binge all day. Normally when I go on vacation, it's like a free for all and it wasn't that." And so being able to focus that, "Hey, my RAS was focused on all of the negative, but why did I do that? I should have been focusing on the positive," totally changed what her vacation was. And so I think once she was able to kind of open up that door and shift that focus to the positive, I think that that's kind of where a lot of her momentum started building from.

0:22:33.0 Lynn: And it's funny 'cause when you started talking about that, my first thought was, "Oh, I felt so free." [laughter] That's not, see, CRS, "I can't remember shit."

[laughter]

0:22:44.3 Lynn: I'm just like, "Oh yeah. Because today I know I can go and do those things and I'm not bad. I'm not good. My food's not bad, my food's not good. My food is food. And Lynn is Lynn."

0:22:58.0 Sydnee: I Always tell Lynn that I wanna be her when I grow up because she's like the most fun, retired person... She is always going to these cooking classes. She has Tuesday games with her friends. And I'm like, "I need to be your neighbor when I grow up," because you go and have so much fun and do all the things. [laughter]

0:23:19.3 Jared: I feel like Lynn needs a podcast.

[laughter]

0:23:22.3 Sydnee: Like her and her friends, like a Tuesday game lunch podcast. You guys could just like...

0:23:28.8 Lynn: Oh, we laugh. We laugh a lot. [laughter] There's six of us. Yeah.

0:23:32.3 Jared: I'm telling you, get six mics and put one mic in the middle of all you guys and call it a... Yeah, I would do it. That's awesome.

0:23:40.1 Lynn: Yeah. Yeah, I didn't wanna skip out on those cooking universities 'cause they are fun and you make the meal and then you eat it, and the menu is the menu. You can't change it. And I do it with a friend of mine, and we just have the best time. And so I just go and I do it.

0:24:00.8 Jared: So what's crazy is... So it sounds like if you never got your relationship with food fixed, it sounds like every area in your life is fucked. Good luck on date night. Good luck on these times that like the memories you're making with your friends, your vacations, your trips, your everything, 'cause food's attached to all that, right?

0:24:16.2 Lynn: Yeah. Yeah. So I wouldn't go out much. I shame about my body, and I didn't wanna worry about the food 'cause I was always on a deprivation diet of some kind.

0:24:31.9 Jared: I get that. So for you, let me ask you this. I always like to ask this question. For you, did it feel like this shifted all at once, or is it like a slow shift? Did you have like this moment in time where it was like "Boom!" and then that's when it changed? Or was it almost like your hair growing out over the last four months? You never saw it like go "Boom!" You just one day go, "Oh, I guess this shit's a lot different than what it was." What was it for you?

0:24:56.9 Lynn: It was the one day boom. But I started listening to your podcast first, and I really wanna bring this up. And I started hearing about the word "deficit" and I never thought of that, and "deprivation" and all that. And I kept thinking about calling and thinking about calling, and then I'm like, "How much I've... " You say when people put money out, they're gonna do their work. Well, I've put a lot of money out over the years, and my doctor who did my gastric bypass wasn't in network and I paid cash, because I was so desperate. And so putting the money into it didn't matter, but you were having a scholarship. So I thought, "Well, I'll just do this and if I get it, I get it." And then I remember you announcing it and I didn't get it. And it's like, "Ugh, all right." But I've been recording my food for, not six decades but for many, many years. I count calories, I weigh in measure. So I already had that instilled in me. But then you texted me and you said I won a partial scholarship.

0:26:10.8 Jared: Yeah, buddy.

0:26:13.0 Lynn: So this is where my head went, "Did I really?" 'Cause I don't know how much you charge. "Is it really a partial scholarship?" And none of that... And I'm just like, "What does that matter? Do you wanna do this or not?" And I signed up for six months and now I'm paying out the next six months.

0:26:31.9 Jared: Yeah. You just extended. I love it. 'Cause that's the thing is, is you have so much momentum going and you're doing so well and it's just gonna make things better. You know what I mean? So for you, let me ask you this. So for you, why did you take the leap? Especially if before it was like, especially around this you were hesitant before. I know because you won the partial, but your first reaction was, "Ugh, but is it really? Whatever." But you still said, "You know what? I'm gonna do it anyway." Where did that come from? What made you actually go, "All right?" 'Cause there's always the leap. There's always the leap.

0:27:08.4 Lynn: I remember texting Connor and saying, "You know, I've thought about it and I'm gonna pass, but thank you very much." And I sent the text.

0:27:16.0 Jared: Yeah.

0:27:16.4 Lynn: And two seconds later, "Binger to Baker" came on.

0:27:22.1 Jared: Heather, yes.

0:27:23.9 Lynn: And I listened to Heather and I thought, "Damn, I gotta do this. I gotta do it." And so I sent him another text, "Ignore my text. I wanna do it." [laughter]

0:27:35.9 Jared: I remember he messaged me that. I remember he's like, "Oh, hey, never mind, she's gonna get rolling... " And I'm like, "Okay, cool."

[laughter]

0:27:43.3 Lynn: Yeah. Yeah. Listening to "Binger to Baker". And again, I can't tell you what she said 'cause I don't remember, but I know it made an impression on me.

0:27:51.9 Jared: Well, I was gonna ask if you remembered what... I know you may not remember exactly what she said, but do you remember what about it made you go, "I have to do this?"

0:28:01.3 Lynn: Just the fact that this woman was, one, baking, and still doing her thing and tasting, and that that was, again, allowed, I'm just like, "I gotta try this." It's really, that's the biggest negative instillment was, with me, was my relationship with food. And so I'm like, "All right, I gotta do this."

0:28:30.2 Jared: I love that. And actually what's funny is, this is the exact reason I wanted you to come on the show is, it's why I told Heather, I go, "Heather, you have this story that is going to resonate and help so many people." But just imagine if Heather didn't come on and be vulnerable and open about her story, you wouldn't have got the help that you needed. That was the catalyst for you, is hearing Heather's story about how relatable it was. Guess what? You wouldn't have got that relatability from me, it's just because it wasn't me. But anyone who struggles with food knows how hard it is to have just a bite. Everyone knows how hard it is to have just the one fucking cookie or the one... Especially baking, especially if you love to cook and stuff.

0:29:12.9 Jared: Heather loved to bake, so now there's a passion and a hobby that she couldn't access because of her issues with food. We fixed that. Now, Heather opened up a fucking baking business. So now she's actually not just living her dream but making money off of it and providing for her family, but because we fixed her relationship with food. And now you're able to go because you've fixed your relationship with food. Imagine your six friends that you guys get together. You would now have this block. You couldn't be with them. You couldn't do stuff with them. You would have now be thinking more about all the shit with food like, "Oh my gosh, I can't enjoy the time. It's this, this, and this." You only have so many sessions with them left. If you had a timer that said, "Hey, you only get 18 of these lessons left before death, before whatever," that's some real shit. But now you have... You can be present for all of those. Now, you can be there for all of those. It's powerful. It's powerful.

0:30:05.4 Lynn: And we talk about the snacks at game day 'cause, oh my God, there's a lot of snacks at game day. And when Sydnee said, "Just take a little plate and put on it what you want and have it," I'm like, "Oh." It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

0:30:28.0 Jared: So let me ask you this. So having had some experience with this now, does it feel like... I always ask this too. Does it feel like the hat's about to drop or like you're getting away with something like murder? That's what everyone says. "I feel like it shouldn't be this simple or easy," and they feel like it's going well, but when is this happy train gonna end? Do you ever feel like that?

0:30:47.0 Lynn: I think I did maybe in the beginning when the momentum started, but I don't anymore. In fact, my husband, he keeps saying, "I gotta work out. I gotta work out." And now we found three days he can, and he goes, "Well, I could maybe three." And I'm like, "That's all you need."

0:31:02.3 Jared: That's a lot. That's like [chuckle] more than enough.

0:31:03.9 Lynn: That's all you need. Right. Well, that's the other thing. When you said one, one, that's okay. The workouts have changed a lot for me.

0:31:12.8 Jared: Yeah.

0:31:14.0 Lynn: But... What was the question? [laughter]

0:31:20.1 Jared: Do you feel like with how smooth this ride is for you now, most people who have gone from that much struggle to this smooth of a ride, they go, "When is this ride gonna stop?"

0:31:27.3 Lynn: Oh, that "getting away with something"? Yeah. Yeah, sometimes a little bit because I'm eating, but for the most part I'm so happy that I don't feel restriction, and I don't feel deprivation, and that I can go into any situation and do something instead of constantly, "Ugh, I can't do that, I can't do that, I can't do that." It's real. It's real and I love it.

0:31:55.0 Jared: Yeah, absolutely. This is what we talk about. Apparently I still can't talk. That it's about food freedom. It's not about eat this, eat that. It's about literally giving you the freedom to go out and do whatever and eat whatever, and nothing's ever holding you back. This is why there's people listening to this right now that are like, "I'm eating chicken, rice, and broccoli eight times a day, and I'm scared shitless of a 50-calorie chocolate bar." You know what I mean?

0:32:20.9 Lynn: Yeah. Yeah. And Sydnee's starting to increase my calories, which I didn't like at the beginning.

0:32:28.7 Jared: I guarantee it.

[laughter]

0:32:31.0 Jared: Old self doesn't... That shit's scary to the old self. [chuckle]

0:32:34.0 Lynn: Yes, exactly. And the middle self is keeping it at the lower number 'cause she gives me a range. The middle self keeps it at the lower number. [laughter]

0:32:42.8 Jared: There you go.

0:32:43.3 Sydnee: And guess what happens? Every time you do that then I bump them up so that your lower number is where I want you.

[laughter]

0:32:50.0 Jared: That's right. [laughter]

0:32:50.9 Sydnee: I'm on to you, Lynn. Don't you think I'm not.

[laughter]

0:32:56.7 Lynn: Yeah. But to think that I would, "I can't lose weight unless I'm at 1200 calories. I can't have carbs at dinner 'cause they put weight on me the next day, and blah, blah, blah," that I'm up to between 19 and... Well, she has me 1900 to 2100, but pretty much I do 1900 to 2000.

0:33:18.8 Jared: And there you go.

0:33:20.1 Lynn: But yeah. And I can fit so much stuff in there.

0:33:25.0 Jared: Yeah.

0:33:25.8 Lynn: Fun stuff.

0:33:27.2 Jared: Yeah. How tall are you?

0:33:29.0 Lynn: 5'2.

0:33:30.0 Jared: So I really want everyone to hear this. Lynn is in her 60s, 5'2, and a female, and she's eating over 2000 calories a day, and losing, and quit binge eating. I really want everyone listening to hear that because most people think because they're a 5'3 or under 5'2 person, especially a female, there is this hardcore identity of, "1200. I can't eat more. I can't eat more." But homegirl, you're eating over 2000 calories a day and losing still. That's insane. That's not insane, that's amazing. Everyone listening thinks it's insane and they go, "But that's not me." What would you say to those people right now?

0:34:12.3 Lynn: It can be you. It can be you. Dieting From The Inside Out, I get that. What I never got was that it's so related with my relationship with food.

0:34:26.8 Jared: Yeah.

0:34:27.2 Lynn: That's what made it really clear to me.

0:34:29.1 Jared: Yeah. It's really hard to do all the fat... This is why the whole thing is, it's really hard to do the fat loss stuff. We all know fat loss stuff is eat less, move more, work harder. That's the children's coloring book of fat loss. 'Cause it's not wrong. In order to lose fat, you have to eat less and move more and work harder. [chuckle] But that's the children's coloring book version. There's all the dieting from the inside out, stuff that's stopping you from doing that. When you have a horrid relationship with food, it kills that. When you can't be consistent, it kills that. When you binge-eat and emotionally-eat and raid the pantry, you can't do that. When your identity causes you to sabotage, you can't do that. So technically fat loss is eat less, move more, work harder, but it's this giant iceberg. It's like the tip of the iceberg. Yeah, that's the tip of it, but you got all the shit underneath the water that is killing this boat. And that's why it's been so easy and simple for you now is 'cause you fixed all that stuff.

0:35:19.2 Lynn: Yeah. I used to say, "If I'm happy I eat, if I'm sad, I eat." Any feeling I have I eat over, and I don't do that anymore. Meditation has been hard and Sydnee said, "You can be on a walk without having headphones on and meditating." And that was a light bulb for me, that I could... Because otherwise old Lynn thinks she's a failure 'cause she can't do what you suggest doing. But that made it so much easier, and I learned to just sit with my feelings, just sit with them.

0:36:01.8 Jared: Have you noticed this is bleeding into other areas in your life other than weight loss? Like other areas, like your relationships, your conversations, your whatever?

0:36:10.4 Lynn: Oh, absolutely. First, the fact that I wanna go do all these things I never wanted to participate before. And with my husband, two of the times that I, after losing 100 pounds, started putting it on again was with my first husband when I started dating him, and then with my current husband. And it was like, now I can... Because I would go out to eat with him, but all the other stuff wasn't being done and I wasn't keeping track during the week. And I would just eat like him, which that I can't do. And now when he wants to go out, we go out, and it's not an issue. Before it was like, "You know, I really... I don't wanna do it." And then just like when you're on vacation and not wanting to do things, I wanna do some more things. And in the beginning I couldn't walk very well. Between my knee that I had replaced and my right one was gonna need replacing, I just couldn't move a lot. And I told Sydnee that. And I'm hitting 10,000 steps a day for the last, I don't know, two months, three months?

0:37:23.3 Jared: Wow.

0:37:24.1 Sydnee: Yeah. When you started, you were averaging around 5000 then we doubled it.

0:37:28.0 Lynn: And we went to the movies yesterday. And I used to... My husband would, when I'd go down the stairs, he'd go, "Left, left. Left, right, left," because I would only use one foot. I went up and down those stairs and I thought, "Oh my God, I'm going up and down the stairs using both my feet, both my legs."

0:37:48.0 Jared: Huge.

0:37:49.2 Lynn: That's huge. We're going on a cruise in January. I can't wait.

0:37:55.1 Jared: That's amazing.

0:37:56.9 Lynn: Because it's gonna be a totally different experience for me.

0:38:00.2 Jared: Well, this is the magic is. People don't realize how much the shit, the struggle around this shit, is costing them their life. Not just like, yeah, health and shit. We all think of that. But I think a lot of people go, "Yeah, yeah, I know I need to be healthier." I'm talking about the experiences now. People get into this and they think about like, "Oh yeah, I want to live longer. I wanna have less medication when I'm older," but people don't realize, this moment right now, how much their struggle is costing them. Experiences now, your relationship with your husband, because you won't go out to eat now, grandkids stuff because you can't get on your hands and knees and play with them now, and all these things now. Because what you've done is you've taken your life back. Now, think about all this stuff now, you've literally taken your life back, which is incredible.

0:38:47.0 Lynn: Yeah. Yeah, I couldn't take my dog on long walks. The poor thing, you know?

0:38:51.0 Jared: Poor little fella.

0:38:52.0 Lynn: He was, yeah.

[laughter]

0:38:55.1 Jared: Sydnee, from your...

0:38:55.8 Sydnee: Well, even when... Oh, I was just gonna say...

0:38:57.8 Jared: No, go ahead.

0:38:58.0 Sydnee: Even when she started, our first call, she's like, "Well, I'm already doing like a couple of classes and I'm doing... I don't wanna change anything." I'm like, "Sweet, we can just... You just continue getting your movement in whatever you're comfortable with." And then slowly she's like, "Okay, I think I'm ready to do program at the gym, but just give me two days." And I'm like, "Okay." So, we did the two days and she's like, "I was feeling a little bit uncomfortable being in this section of the gym, but I pushed through and I did it." And I'm like, "Good, I'm so proud of you for pushing outside." And so we just started her new program and she's like, "No, I'm ready for three days." So she is at three days strength training. And I told her at this new program, I'm like, "I'm pushing you, I'm pushing you a little bit outside. I'm gonna make you a little uncomfortable." But she hasn't complained yet. So, I imagine things are going all right.

0:39:41.9 Lynn: Well, because it's only the first week and you haven't gotten my check-in.

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0:39:49.0 Jared: "It's coming, damnit."

0:39:50.0 Lynn: I've thought about it. It's like, "Oh my god." Yeah, I am planning to say...

0:39:53.2 Sydnee: Well, it must not be bad enough that you have to email me.

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0:39:56.9 Lynn: That's true. That's true. And Jared, when you say those muscle guys are always the nicest guys, that was in my head because I had a lot of fear on that. And I couldn't move something. And so I looked at this guy who was right near me and I said, "Can you help me?" And he goes, "Of course, I can help you." He was the nicest guy. And then he gave me, he said, "You know, that machine has two cables where that one only has one, so this is gonna be harder." And I'm like, "Oh," 'cause I didn't notice it. And I'm like, "Oh." And so I tried it and, yeah, it was very hard, and then the other machine got free, but... Yeah. Very nice. Very nice. And...

0:40:36.4 Jared: I'm telling you... Go ahead, go ahead. Sorry.

0:40:38.0 Lynn: I was just gonna say, I hear you. I hear your little tidbits of wisdom and I take it with me.

0:40:43.9 Jared: I'm telling you, the bigger the lumpier, the more steroids, the nicer. They may be assholes to other lumpy people like to other big, beefy dudes. But I'm telling you, I grew up in a really big meathead gym. Actually, the gym I train at now is a meathead gym. I'm talking about like professional bodybuilders and everyone is on steroids. I'm talking about like the girls in there are bigger than me. And like I would love to have arms like some of these women. Everyone in there is like a competitor. But fuck, every one of these fuckers melt when a sweet, innocent, especially older person goes, "How do I use this? Can you help me?" I'm telling you, I came up with this. He was one of my first influences when I got into personal training back in the day.

0:41:29.3 Jared: This dude was on so many steroids. He was like just jacked out of his gourd, hardcore, wore like those stringer sleeveless shirts, was just like Blair and heavy metal screamo music. I'm talking about like, this dude loved to fight, dude had an edge around him, but fuck. Mrs. Jones would be like, "I can't adjust the bench. Can you help me?" "Absolutely ma'am. Let me help. Where do you want this at? Do you want it closer? Do you want it further away? Do you want me to hand you your dumbbells?" I'm telling you, the biggest, lumpiest meatheads are the biggest sweethearts across the board. So if there's any big meatheads watching this, do not prove me wrong by being a degenerate.

[laughter]

0:42:12.4 Jared: If I find out, I will fly across the country and be like, "Hey motherfucker..." So that's great. I love that. And that's, to be honest, that's the thing, is there's so much power with stepping into that uncomfortable side where even if you're doing the same exercise, let's say you're comfortable, your comfort zone is doing squats at the back of the room next to the cardio equipment, go do your squats up next to the 100-pound dumbbells, up next to where the big boys lift. And I'm telling you, it changes you because then before you know it, you, and now you walk up there like you own the place. Then before you know it, you're like, "You know what... "

0:42:47.2 Lynn: Yeah, very powerful.

0:42:49.0 Jared: Yeah. And at the end of the day, there's a guy that I study a lot and he said, "Name me one person that's done anything good in their comfort zone." And I go, "I can't think of a single person." Nothing good has ever come from a comfort zone. And even if it's something as simple as the same exercise, squats, doing them up between the benches at the heavy dumbbells where like... My mom always called it "man land." It's where all the big beefy boys work out. And I go, "Yeah, you should go up there to man land and put some feminine energy up there, and go up there." And it changes things. It's so powerful. It changes the way your brain operates. I see it in Jujutsu class a lot. Guys that would... Actually, the guy I was rolling with last night, I remember his first day in class and he's just like getting down on it. He's like real timid. You could see it in his face, you could feel it in his energy. We rolled last night. He dropped right back down and slapped my hand and we rolled. And I'm like, "Bro, you're getting comfortable and I love this." He goes, "Oh, I didn't notice." And I go, "Bro, I remembered your first class. You were like apprehensive as hell and now you just act like you belong here, 'cause you do."

0:43:53.0 Jared: And I saw it change in his face, and it changes you in those listening. When you start stepping outside your comfort zone, it changes you. When you start to believe you belong there, and when you start to realize you belong in your goals, that's an identity shift no one can take away.

0:44:09.8 Lynn: Yeah.

0:44:10.8 Jared: It's fucking amazing. Sydnee, so I'm gonna ask you this. So, because of all this, there's been some like obviously the... With anything like this, there's the resistance, right? Like going from... Because like in Lynn's case, a lot of retraining her brain and unlearning a lot has had to happen and there's always resistance to that. So how have you been able to help her? Especially for those listening, people are like, "Wait, I'm scared of chocolate. How can I become a baker? Like, fuck." Or like Lynn's, the concept of like Lynn increasing her calories. I know there's hundreds of people that just went, "I don't... There's no way I could." So how have you been able to slowly help her with this to where it's been doable?

0:44:46.4 Sydnee: I think a lot of it, it kind of started with her Tuesday games, right? And so, "Hey, this is the problem I'm facing. I'm afraid to go and not be able to stop on snacks." So talking about it before, "Hey, before you go journal about it, let's come up with a plan. Have something a little bit higher in protein when you go, maybe even bring like one of your own snacks and then just get your plate, eat that." And I think being able to talk through the different scenarios that she was nervous about and kind of come up with a plan beforehand, and it's almost like me giving her permission made it okay at first, right? So, "Okay, I'm gonna go to my game day, I'm gonna get my snacks. Sydnee said it was okay to have my plate. I'm gonna have my plate and not live in that guilt because Sydnee said it was okay."

0:45:33.4 Sydnee: And I think doing that over and over and over, and now her brain, it's just normal now. There's not that fear. And so I think number one, telling your coach, like, "Hey, this is what I'm feeling nervous with. This is what I'm afraid to do." Being able to be vulnerable, being able to have that communication where, "Okay, let's come up with a plan, let's execute the plan, and see how it went," right? Did things go well? Did they not go well? If they went well, well let's continue doing that. If things didn't go well, well let's see what didn't go well and change that if we need to. And so just having that plan to, "Hey, let's do this together," and then eventually after you get that permission that it's okay, then you start to feel more comfortable and you can make those choices on your own. I know a big hold back for Lynn at the beginning was she was very worried about if she went out to eat, not being able to find the perfect match on MyFitnessPal. And I'm like, "Hey, it doesn't have to be perfect. Just find something that's close enough and be consistent," right? Don't say that you had a chicken breast when you actually had a slice of pizza.

[laughter]

0:46:42.4 Sydnee: But let's just...

[laughter]

0:46:44.1 Sydnee: Being consistent and just giving her the permission that, "Hey, it was okay." Because I think a lot of people in this industry say, "No, you can't have that. No, you can't do that. No, if you're in a diet you can't go to game day," right? But being able to have that permission where your coach is like, "No, go on vacation and enjoy your food," is just a different way of thinking. And it is, I think, so freeing and I love watching my clients go and enjoy.

0:47:15.0 Lynn: Yeah. For so long I didn't have permission to eat. It was all wrong and bad. And when she did give me the permission, it was like, "Oh, okay." And now, most of the time I don't want it.

0:47:28.0 Jared: Crazy how that works, isn't it?

0:47:29.0 Lynn: Yes!

[laughter]

0:47:30.2 Lynn: If I want it, I can have it, but most of the time I don't want it. We went out to an Italian restaurant last night and I figured out what I was gonna have, and normally I would get chicken parm, it's my favorite. But I know this place has this really big... I like it because it's colossal chicken parm. It's a big piece of chicken. And it was like, "Do you really want that?" No. And I had a very nice dinner with cheesy bread. You know? It's...

0:47:58.2 Jared: Let's go. [laughter]

0:48:00.3 Lynn: [laughter] Yes.

0:48:00.4 Jared: What did you get? I love chicken parm.

0:48:00.8 Sydnee: I love cheesy bread.

0:48:02.0 Lynn: I got their chop chop salad, but I didn't say leave out the salami. I didn't say—I did say no dressing 'cause I find I don't need it when it's chopped, that thing. But I said large, and I had the salad.

0:48:18.3 Jared: I love it. And that's the thing is, is what all we're doing is putting you back in the driver's seat. If you want a salad, eat your salad. But a lot of people there are like, "I want the chicken parm, I want the burger, I want the whatever." The the thing is, it's giving you choices. All it's doing is giving you freedom. I don't know how she does it. I have yet to meet a single person who loves salad as much as my wife. My wife will... And she does the same thing, is when she chops it crazy fine like self... Does its thing like it's...

0:48:47.9 Lynn: Yeah, it marinates.

0:48:49.3 Jared: Yeah, it's own juices and shit. I don't get it. But that woman eats so much salad, it's unreal. It's because she loves her salad. But I want people on here to know that you didn't get that salad because you felt like you had to have it. You got it because you wanted it when you originally wanted the chicken, the chicken parmesan. But then it just didn't sound very good. So the fact that you are back in control of your own driver's seat is what this is about. That's incredible.

0:49:15.0 Lynn: Yeah. And my friend got it and she goes, "Do you want a taste?" I'm like, "No." I didn't even wanna taste it. It just didn't look appealing to me.

0:49:24.1 Jared: When chicken parm is good, it's fucking great.

0:49:26.0 Lynn: It's really... I know.

0:49:26.8 Jared: When it's not great, it's really disappointing. I'm so hesitant. I love chicken parm and there are so many restaurants, I almost get it. But I'm so like, "I don't want this to look like a shitty piece of chicken with some bullshit cheese on it. I want this to be super good," so.

0:49:42.1 Lynn: Yeah, yeah.

0:49:43.3 Jared: You know what I mean?

0:49:44.1 Lynn: Yeah. Cheese everywhere.

0:49:46.0 Jared: Yeah. Best chicken parm I've ever had was, I was in Sedona, Arizona and I was walking around, I was a day early for an event I was at, and I found this walk-in pizza restaurant. You don't tip your waiters at this restaurant. You walk in, you go sit somewhere, and you leave. It was very like that kind of style. And they had a chicken parmesan sandwich and I said, "I'm feeling risky today." So I got it. It was the best chicken parm than anything I've ever fucking had. He goes, "We have to make it fresh, it's gonna be like 10 minutes." And I go, "Thank you."

[laughter]

0:50:25.3 Jared: Like he's trying to deter me from getting it. And I'm like, "Perfect, brother. Thank you." So let me ask you this, Lynn, is what would you say, as we're wrapping up here, what would you say to someone who is currently where you were?

0:50:39.6 Lynn: I would say start listening to your podcast.

[laughter]

0:50:43.2 Jared: They're in the right spot, 'cause that's how they're hearing this right now.

0:50:45.9 Lynn: That's true. That's right. As I was saying that, I heard that. [laughter] And for me I needed a coach. I needed a coach to help me get through this. I went on so many Instagram people's calorie counters, I can't even tell you. And I kept getting a different calorie deficit. And I heard someone say, "Just pick one." I just didn't know. I needed Sydnee to tell me where I should be. So I am paying for this even though it's partial and it's worth every penny. Worth every penny. And you do work with me on the payments.

0:51:32.4 Jared: Absolutely. 100%.

0:51:33.2 Lynn: Yeah. Yeah.

0:51:35.7 Jared: That's the thing is, we always... I always hate it when money is the biggest stopper of someone getting where they want to be. And that's why I always tell people when they get weird about the money, I'm like, "Yo, well, number one, I don't want you doing this if I put you in a bad spot. That's why there's no pressure. But number two is, if you're willing to get creative or resourceful, so am I so we can make this shit happen because you're worth being invested in." And to be honest, and I know this, I sound like a salesman when I say this, but I would be doing everyone a disservice if I didn't charge for this because there's a higher commitment level that is demanded when you pay for something. I know you said like you've invested stuff all the time before.

0:52:11.2 Jared: You may be the minority on this, but the vast majority of people... And I still think it is for you though, because when you're paying for something you have in your head is, it's a reflection of how you believe about yourself as an identity. A lot of people have this shitty identity and they're not willing to invest in themselves. They're willing to invest in everything else, but they're not willing to do something for their own betterment. And for most people is it's... I would be doing a disservice if I didn't charge for it because of what it does to the person when you put your money where your mouth is. Same thing with my mentor. I have a coach, I have a mentor, and if he did it for free, I would not respect him as much, I would not value it as much, and I would not value myself as much because it was free.

0:52:53.8 Sydnee: Well, I think that that's the difference in why Lynn has been successful this time versus the other time because she was investing in the thing like Weight Watchers. It was like a thing, where here she's investing in a coach to do her better to work on herself. She's not paying for the fancy sexy program. She's paying for herself and really investing in herself.

0:53:16.9 Lynn: Yeah. And if you wanna be able to eat more and still lose weight.

[laughter]

0:53:22.2 Jared: That's right.

0:53:23.0 Lynn: Yeah.

0:53:23.8 Jared: This has been so good. I'm so glad we did this. Thank you both again for doing this. Any final thoughts?

0:53:27.2 Lynn: Thank you for asking.

0:53:29.0 Jared: Absolutely. I'm so glad you did it. Any final thoughts from either of you on any of this stuff?

0:53:35.1 Lynn: No, I'll probably think of a bunch of stuff after we disconnect.

[laughter]

0:53:39.1 Jared: That's fine. No worries at all.

0:53:40.1 Sydnee: She'll be like, "I should've said this."

0:53:41.2 Jared: She'll be like, "Man, dammit."

[laughter]

0:53:43.3 Lynn: Yeah. Yeah. I just wanna also say that the workouts that I'm getting, I feel like I'm really working out.

0:53:50.8 Jared: I love it.

0:53:51.1 Lynn: Whereas even though I was taking classes and then for my knee, I was taking swim-type classes. I don't feel like I'm getting a workout as I am when I'm doing strength training. And it's just powerful. It is powerful.

0:54:08.8 Jared: It is so powerful.

0:54:09.8 Lynn: Yeah, yeah.

0:54:11.0 Jared: Absolutely. I love it. Good stuff. Well, ladies, thank you so much for doing this. I appreciate it more than you know. I will let both of you know when this goes live and we'll talk soon.

0:54:21.0 Lynn: All right. Thanks, Jared.

0:54:22.0 Jared: See ya.

0:54:22.3 Lynn: Thanks, Sydnee.

0:54:24.2 Jared: And we are back. Thank you so much for tuning in once again to today's episode of Dieting From The Inside Out. Because I always say outer work without inner work doesn't work. And if Lynn did not diet from the inside out, she would not have ended her struggles. Because it's interesting. This game of fat loss and transformation, it is not a quick process. We all know it's slow. I always actually say in the grand scheme of things, it's actually can be quite fast. It's just not Amazon Prime. Even with Lynn's situation, 50, 60 years of struggle to four months, that's fast as fuck. But that was still four months. That's not like two-week shred, two-week whatever, you know what I mean? And that's the thing is, in those four months, imagine if she didn't go all in, imagine if she didn't invest in herself.

0:55:09.1 Jared: Imagine if she didn't put in the work and go into this thing the right way, she would not be having the freedom and the happiness and the experiences that she's having. You know what I mean? So if you're listening to this and you want to have a story like Lynn's, or let's say you don't even have the amount of struggle that Lynn had, but you're like, "Man, I'm just not happy with where I'm at. I'm not happy with where the way things are going, and I'm ultimately not where I want to be," and you're tired of the mental back and forth of the bandwidth. You're tired of doing this on your own trial fail, trial fail. At the time of recording this, we're already six months through the year. If your first six months wasn't that good, we can change the next six months.

0:55:47.3 Jared: And if you want to have a story like Lynn's, if you wanna be the next success story... I always heard people like me saying that and always like, "Oh, that could never be me, but then I hired the right coach and it was me." So, I'm telling you, there's no reason you can't be that next success story at all. It's funny, clients tell me all the time that they'll come up listening to my podcast and then eventually become a client, and then they have so much success as a client. They come on to my podcast and they say it's just so surreal because of it coming full circle and there's no reason it can't be you right now. And don't talk yourself out of it. Like right now you're probably thinking, "Oh well, it couldn't be me, I've got this, I'm not this."

0:56:26.8 Jared: Stop it. That's sabotage. That's the exact reason you need help because sabotage is a sneaky little bastard. So if you wanna be that next story like Lynn, apply for coaching. There'll be a link below where you can apply for coaching. And that way we know you came from the podcast, so you're gonna get some extra stuff, which is pretty dope. But there's no reason that can't be you because you deserve to be happy, you deserve to thrive, and you deserve the goals that you're trying to get, that you're supposed to have them. So the fact that there's this big disconnect is the problem. So if you wanna apply for coaching and have a story just like Lynn's and even work with Sydnee, you can even request to work with her, if you really like the vibe of this conversation, you can request that.

0:57:04.9 Jared: Just go to the link below and apply for coaching and then we'll see if it's a good fit. And assuming it is, we'll talk about options. And we have plenty of options that work with most people, but before we do any of that, we have to make sure this is even the right fit, okay? So now, let's say you're listening to this and not quite there yet. You're like, "I don't know if I'm that committed. I don't know if like... I'm just not quite ready for that." That's fine. Coaching is not for everyone. But I do have some other stuff that you can do and some other stuff for you. If you are not part of my Fat Loss Simplified Facebook group or if you're newer to my content, you should start there. That's a great place to kind of get to know me, get to know my team, get to know everything that's going on and how we do our thing and give you some ideas around all of this stuff on where to go, what to do.

0:57:44.4 Jared: And you just need a home base to be at, that way you can get to where you want to be, then you should start there. There's a link below. I'm trying to think what else. Oh, I also have a free course if you're like not quite sure that even how to lose weight and keep it off sustainably. I have a five day email course. I've recently updated it, it's fantastic. You can go through that. There's a link below, and then there's all the links to my other socials and stuff. Because here's the thing, I just wanna help you. Whichever route would be best: For some people that's the course, for some people that's a one-on-one coaching. I just wanna help you with whatever you need, because I know how it is going through this game struggling for so long and I don't wish that on anyone. So, I love you, I appreciate you, and be sure to subscribe to the show. Sorry, words are so hard today. Be sure to subscribe to the show. We're on YouTube, if you're listening to the audio. And that's it. I'll see you next week and I'll talk to you next time.

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About Lynn & Her Progress :

Lynn has been overweight from a very young age and at 9 her mom put her on Weight Watchers. Lynn was not allowed to have foods that most kids were able to eat. Even on special occasions—like her birthday—Lynn would not be allowed to have cake.

Her entire household was constantly on a diet—always looking for the “next best thing.”

Lynn was also bullied growing up, which contributed to her lifelong struggles.

Over the years, Lynn tried many things to lose weight—not only diets, but also gastric bypass surgery.

Lynn did find success on multiple occasions, losing 100lbs 3 separate times, but she always gained the weight back.

On this most recent stint of losing and gaining, she gained about half of the weight back before she started looking for a different solution.

Lynn always found ways to mindlessly snack or binge. She just couldn’t stop herself.

Even having a total knee replacement surgery did not keep her from consistently finding her way to mindless eating.

Today, Lynn is 65, and through working with Coach Sydnee, she has learned how to completely change her identity—which has made all the difference for her lifelong struggles with weight loss.

Lynn now has a huge sense of freedom because she knows that no foods are “off limits.”

She can work things like cake or candy into her plan if that's what she wants. On days (or special occasions) where she goes over her calories, she’s okay with that.

It’s just an adjustment for that day and the next day Lynn gets up and keeps going with her plan. She does not give up.

Sydnee’s Perspective on Lynn’s Progress:

From the beginning, Sydnee saw Lynn putting in real effort to change her identity.

On their first call, Sydnee recalls that Lynn had a lot of self-doubt—questioning why and how this time would be different.

They talked a lot about identity in the beginning and Lynn made herself a T-chart of “Old Identity vs. New Identity,” so that when she was having a hard time, she could reference the chart and self-correct—something that she did a lot of in the beginning.

If Lynn stepped on the scale and felt bad, she would stop herself, reference her chart, and act in accordance with her new identity. She didn’t let the scale make or break her day.

To Sydnee, Lynn’s willingness to go all in and do the identity work is one of the key factors to her success.

Jared agrees that Lynn’s ability to observe her feelings and reactions, stop, and act in accordance with her new identity is a large part of why she has been so successful.

Lynn has found that the language used by Jared and his team just makes sense to her. The terms of “old identity,” “new identity,” and “sabotage” have really helped her in defining and identifying what she is doing and how she wants to act.

For example, If she has thoughts creep in telling her she doesn’t want to get up and do her walk, she is now able to put a stop to that and recognize that she is sabotaging herself.

Jared has been extremely impressed with how Lynn has been able to commit and have her actions follow through with her new identity. He points out that shifting the identity is not the hard part—it’s getting your actions aligned with the new identity that really requires work.

Lynn is proof that it is never too late to change your identity.

Why Sydnee Believes Lynn Has Been So Successful:

From the beginning, Lynn committed to being very honest with Sydnee and herself about what she was doing and eating.

Before beginning with coaching, Lynn would lie to make it seem like she was sticking to her plan—so her commitment to honesty was huge for her success.

A big turning point that Sydnee saw for Lynn was when she went on vacation. Sydnee always impresses the importance of enjoying your vacation upon her clients and she was very excited for Lynn to go have a great vacation.

When Lynn got back from vacation, she was stressed and feeling guilty about the food she ate during her trip—and during her check-in, was focused on the negatives.

After watching one of Jared’s calls focusing on the Reticular Activating System, Lynn realized that she was focusing on the negatives, so she went back and listed all her wins.

Those wins included getting back on track, being honest about the number on the scale, not sneaking any food on the trip, and not binging.

This was the point that Sydnee saw momentum really start to build for Lynn. Lynn was able to stop and shift her perspective to the positive—and totally changed her feelings about the trip.

Lynn comments that she now knows that she is not “good” or “bad” because of her food choices.

Her food is not good or bad, “Food is food, and Lynn is Lynn.”

She is now able to go out and enjoy time with friends, take cooking classes, and live her life.

She doesn’t shame herself about her body, worry about food, or deprive herself anymore.

What Made Lynn Take the Leap:

For Lynn, the shift came suddenly, but getting started was a little bit of a slower process.

She started listening to the Dieting From The Inside Out podcast first, and though she had paid for many different attempts at weight loss, she was not initially ready to try coaching.

Lynn entered a scholarship giveaway and didn’t win a full scholarship, but did win a partial scholarship.

Initially, Lynn turned down her partial scholarship but quickly changed her mind after listening to Episode 257 and hearing Heather’s “From Binger to Baker” story.

Hearing that Heather went from binging to being a baker and having a good relationship with food finally convinced Lynn to take the next step.

This is exactly the reason Jared likes to bring clients on the podcast—without hearing Heather’s story, Lynn would not have taken that leap of faith.

How Lynn Feels Now:

Lynn no longer feels restricted.

In the beginning, when she first started picking up momentum, she felt a little like she was almost getting away with something because things had been going so well. Now, she’s mostly just glad that she doesn’t feel restricted or deprived.

She can go into any situation, she can live her life.

Jared emphasizes that it’s all about food freedom. The freedom to go out, do whatever, and eat whatever.

Lynn is now eating 1900 to 2100 calories a day—at 5’ 2” tall and 65 years old—and she's losing weight while having the ability to enjoy any food she wants.

Lynn wants those listening to know that this can be you too. She didn’t know how intertwined her relationship with food was with her struggles—and learning to diet from the inside out has made all the difference.

Jared goes on to say that fat loss, we all know, is “eat less, move more, work harder,” but that’s the children’s coloring book version—the tip of the iceberg—and there's a whole lot more under the surface that needs to be dealt with.

Lynn’s Success and the Impact on Her Life:

Lynn used to say, “If I'm happy, I eat. If I'm sad, I eat. Any feeling I have, I eat over.”

She doesn’t do that anymore.

Lynn has learned to sit with her feelings and that she is not a failure simply because she can’t do something.

For example, she struggles with traditional meditation but has learned that she can meditate while she walks instead.

Her success in changing her relationship with food—and changing her identity—has carried over into other areas of her life. Lynn now wants to do things and participate in her life.

She can go out with her husband, she can go on vacation, and she actively wants to do all of those types of things.

Lynn has increased her steps from roughly 5K a day to 10K a day and she is much more mobile than before. She used to have trouble going up and down stairs because of her knee and would often rely on one leg, but she can now walk up and down stairs normally.

Jared makes a point to say that Lynn has taken her life back—all these things in the here and now that she is able to do, enjoy, and look forward to.

Many people don’t realize how their struggles with weight, health, and food are impacting their lives now.

Lynn is now strength training 3 days a week and getting outside her comfort zone more and more.

Sydnee’s Approach with Lynn:

For Lynn, a lot of the work revolved around talking through things and coming up with a plan.

Her game days with her friends, for instance, would make Lynn very nervous in the beginning—she wasn’t sure she would be able to stop eating all the available snacks.

So, she talked it through with Sydnee and came up with a plan.

Sydnee told her it was okay for her to have snacks.

Having that permission in the beginning was very helpful for Lynn and, over time, it became normal for her—and she now no longer has that fear.

Sydnee emphasizes that being honest and open with your coach is really important so you can come up with those types of plans—and adjust as needed—together.

For most of her life, Lynn didn’t have permission to eat what she wanted and felt a lack of control around food.

Now, she is able to make her own decisions about what she wants to eat and—because she knows she can have whatever foods she wants—she doesn’t crave specific things.

Advice from Lynn:

Lynn says she needed a coach—she needed someone to help her along the way.

She encourages listeners to continue listening to the podcast and says that coaching is worth every penny.

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